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Old Jul 29, 2018 | 11:42 AM
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That’s what seems to make sense to me.... swap back just to the clevite on #5
Old Jul 29, 2018 | 12:51 PM
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Leave it. You’re fine.
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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I remember reading somewhere that #5 main bearing clearance was designed with a little more clearance to keep the rope seal lubricated. Either way, I wouldn’t worry about the clearance you have now, much better.
Old Aug 9, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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You’re telling me..
I am kind of wondering though if my rod bearing spun due to an oil starvation issue caused by the sustained high highway rpm and the poor oil return to the stock pan. All the bearings looked like they were eventually going to go, after I inspected. One of the reasons I’m adding the 7qt pan that was on my 425 is for the added insurance..or peace of mind.


The high RPMs on the highway surely didn't help. 4.10 gears on a 1:1 final ratio with a slipping non-lockup converter means you are pushing 4,000 rpm+ for sustained periods when around 65-70mph. That really puts the oil and oiling system to the test. Any weak link will be exposed and will be done through a major problem like a rod bearing or worn out main bearings. The stroke on a 455 Olds is pretty intense and high extended RPM's are not a friend of long stroke engines like the 455.

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Old Aug 16, 2018 | 01:54 PM
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Thanks guys for all the help. I got the motor in and running. So far so good. Still need to get the timing dialed in just right but runs pretty smooth so far. With 10w30 VR1 I get about 60 psi cold and ~10-15 at hot idle at 650rpm. I haven’t driven it but with some throttle, the oil pressure climbs quickly to 50psi at 2000rpms. Is the hot idle pressure ok?

Old Aug 16, 2018 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stampsicle
Thanks guys for all the help. I got the motor in and running. So far so good. Still need to get the timing dialed in just right but runs pretty smooth so far. With 10w30 VR1 I get about 60 psi cold and ~10-15 at hot idle at 650rpm. I haven’t driven it but with some throttle, the oil pressure climbs quickly to 50psi at 2000rpms. Is the hot idle pressure ok?


Most people with 455's run thicker weight oil, usually 15w-50 synthetic with high zinc/moly content.

10w-30 is pretty thin when heated and I would go with a thicker oil.

10-15 at hot idle is pushing towards being low at the 10psi side. I believe the oil light comes on at 8psi. Run the thicker oil and see what happens.
Old Aug 16, 2018 | 03:57 PM
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I run VR1 20W-50 in big blocks and the 10W-30 in small blocks cuz of the different clearances and journal sizes.
Just a FYI.
Old Aug 16, 2018 | 06:26 PM
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I would try a little thicker oil, 15w40 Rotella or even 10w40 would probably raise the oil pressure to an acceptable level. Cut the filter open (use tin snips, no hacksaw or anything that will creat shavings) if the filter is clean of debris, run it. Your idle pressure is a little on the low side, but if that’s as low as it goes and the filter is clean I think you will be fine.
Old Aug 17, 2018 | 06:20 AM
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Is there a certain chain of auto parts stores that keeps the VR1 20w-50 in stock usually?
Old Aug 17, 2018 | 07:45 AM
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Is there a certain chain of auto parts stores that keeps the VR1 20w-50 in stock usually?
I picked up some 20w50 yesterday and will change the oil this weekend. I'll check the filter while I'm at it. Pretty much every chain store in town here sells VR1 20w50.
Old Aug 17, 2018 | 08:15 AM
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Cool, I haven’t noticed it at my local oreillys where I frequent.... I will ask if they can get it or check a few other stores.

I looked back but couldn’t find what cam you went with....
Old Aug 17, 2018 | 09:38 AM
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Cool, I haven’t noticed it at my local oreillys where I frequent.... I will ask if they can get it or check a few other stores.

I looked back but couldn’t find what cam you went with....
Erson TQ50
Old Aug 20, 2018 | 07:20 PM
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I got the oil changed today and it holds 25-30 psi hot idle now. Thanks guys for all the help!

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Old Aug 20, 2018 | 08:55 PM
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That is great news! Congrats! What is your max oil pressure now at 5,000 when hot, or have you got it up there yet?


Great looking engine and engine bay also!
Old Aug 20, 2018 | 09:24 PM
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That is great news! Congrats! What is your max oil pressure now at 5,000 when hot, or have you got it up there yet?


Great looking engine and engine bay also!
Thanks. Haven’t reved it up that high yet. Had to work through an alternator issue and haven’t had a chance to really drive it.
Old Oct 14, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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In my opinion, the mains that are under .0028 are too tight and I would want all the rods to be .0025 minimum

I am going for .003-.00325 on my mains and .0025-.00275 on my rods with polydyne coated bearings

remember that tighter is not better on bearing clearances in olds engines

My crank is at mile high crank right now, getting ground to adjust to these new specs. Dave is great to work with and he is very affordable and has quick turnaround. He quoted us $150 to get the clearances ground correctly and $175 more for nitriding ( still on the fence for that).
Who are you using for Block work? I 100% agree that Mile High Crank is great. I had purchased a 330 Crank that was ground .030 rods/ .020 on the mains and had Dave send it out for the Nitriding and then repolish it.

I have hard that Geddes is great, but I live 3hrs away in Northern CO.
Old Oct 14, 2021 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by rogue_ryder
Who are you using for Block work? I 100% agree that Mile High Crank is great. I had purchased a 330 Crank that was ground .030 rods/ .020 on the mains and had Dave send it out for the Nitriding and then repolish it.

I have hard that Geddes is great, but I live 3hrs away in Northern CO.

not anymore…. Maybe you had a good experience there in the past, but I will never trust Mile High Crank again after our fiasco. Check out my long-winded build thread on what happened at mile high crank multiple times.

I can’t recommend anyone else but Vortecpro, and he is in process of moving to Texas.

No matter where VORTECPRO moves, I will ship or carry my engines to him for only him and his son to work on. PERIOD.

I don’t know of Geddes, but maybe someone else can chime in.
Old Oct 15, 2021 | 09:35 PM
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Good know about Mile High! Bummer to hear that one of the good ones is moving to Texas...
Old Oct 18, 2021 | 09:21 AM
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Where bout's in Texas?
Old Oct 18, 2021 | 10:07 AM
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Where bout's in Texas?
Central Texas, about 45 minutes away from Austin
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