I put on my Performer and the old heavy cast iron is laying on the floor in the way.
Is it a throw away piece???

 

You might list it for sale here and on craigslist. Other members may want a stock one. Then there are the people who just like to keep the old parts for posterity or future use.

 

The factory 1968-69 BBO cast iron intakes are unique to those years and have the divorced choke pocket. Definitely sell it, don't scrap it.

 

I'm in the process of building a period correct 455 for my 68 442... might be interested.

PM me a price if you decide to sell it, ty...

 

Im sorry, its the intake off the 67 400 E block that is in my car. And my goodness its heavy!!!!!

 

Is it a 4bbl or 2bbl? If it is 4 bbl I would not scrap it. I can't even give 2 bbl intakes away.

 

Its a 4 barrel, but this E block 400 is only a 442 engine so it might be a little rare???

 

The iron 4bbl intakes were the same on all BBOs for a given year (except Toros), so not particularly rare. The bigger question is which intake do you have? The E block is a 1966-67 motor. Is your intake casting no. 390390, which would be the 66-67 intake, or casting no. 398662, which is the 68-69 intake?

 

I've got an 'E' 400 in my car, the most I can find out about these engines is that they were produced in 66 & 67 for 442's and are rare. (E '66 - '67 400 390925 442 engine [VERY rare].) I'd really like to know more about when they were in production. My 65 442 was built in the 2cd. week of July 1965 and should have a 'B' 400, but July is late in production. They started building 66's in Sept. and probably the line (Lansing) shut down before that to retool. It's been suggested that they put what they "had' in some of the cars, particularly toward the end of production, I'm looking for the possibility that my engine is original or was a warranty block, so any information about these engines would be appreciated. By the way an 'E' 400 should have the 39 degree lifter angle which allows for more cam and better value geometry and it along with 425 which has the same lifter angle seems to be the engine of choice for those who are building the big H.P. engines. I wouldn't throw the manifold away it's probably the same as came on the 'B' 400 and should have value for the person who's restoring a 65 or 66 442 and doesn't have the original because a previous owner put aluminum intake on to enhance performance.

 

This has been covered before. Don't believe everything you read in the Olds FAQ. Common sense tells you that there were at least twice as many E-block 400s cast as B-block motors (two years of production vs. one), so what makes the E-block more rare than the B-block? Answer: nothing. It is unlikely that the E-block was factory installed in a 1965 car. More likely is that the 1965 B-block was blown up at one time and replaced with the newer motor. Also, the 1965 intake is a square-bore design for the 4GC carb. The 66-67 intake is a spread bore design for the Q-jet.

 

True dat!
Also the intake I took off is a "390390"

 

Thanks for the info. Joe , you say that this has all been covered before. Can you direct me to those threads and by the way it does make perfect sense that 'E' 400's aren't so rare. I've have seen a number of these engines in 65 442s that I've looked at over the years, so even that is not a super rare. I guess the next logical question is, was the 'B' 400 prone to blow and are these engines are warranty motors. Other than the 'E' and casting number what do I look for on the block to help discover the original application. I'll have to check but I believe that my engine has 'A' heads and the original intake is a 384439. This might suggest a short block replacement. Does any one know did they use short blocks for warranty?

 

If you sell it make sure you get more for it than you would by selling it to a metal recycler. Do metal recyclers even give anything for cast iron? Just a thought...

 

I figure for every one person switching to an aftermarket part there is another switching back to factory parts. So I always keep one version of the original parts in case I want to switch back or sell the car and the new owner wants it stock. I've come across a bunch of guys trying to locate original iron intakes for various years. Other than the previous mentioned 2 barrel intakes the early 4 barrel iron intakes are usually needed by somebody somewhere. Unfortunately, they take up so much room and are so heavy. They seem so much less desirable after they tip over and land on your foot.

Regarding the side track on the '65 B blocks; In the 90s I had kind of an unofficial registry of theses cars. They used B blocks well into August. They made more than 25,000 engines for that year. There was not a shortage of B blocks. I don't think they blew up any more than any other performance engine either.

 

You saw 1967 "E" blocks in 1965 442s???? I would call that rare maybe even futuristic!!!

 

Yes over a 3 year period of looking hard for a car I have seen a number of 'E' motors in 65 442's My guess is that they were/ are factory warranty replacements? Joe is right when he suggests that because of the two years of production there should be more 'E' motors than 'B' motors and that after the 'B' motor supply ran out then 'E' engines would have to used for a 400 cu.in. warranty application. Who knows, I bought my car knowing I was getting an 'E' engine not the "correct" 'B' engine, but after some investigation I believe that the 'E' engine is a better engine for my purpose and is not inconsistent with the 1966 L69 Tri-Carb. set up I'm running. As mentioned the lifter angle is better than the 'B', more room for the cam and larger diameter lifters, all good.

 

If you are a fisherman you could use it for an anchor.

 

I might be interested in it for a 400 stock motor I am building. Email me your price shipped to 97756

Thanks
Larry
lemoldsnut@aol.com

 

Every stock part I have ever thrown away because I thought I would never need it has come back to bite me. I just paid big money for an original Am/fm radio to go back in my dash. I threw a perfectly good one away about 15 years ago. My biggest error in judgement came in the late 70's when I gave away a really nice set of 15" Mopar Rally wheels with trim rings and center caps. Cost me about 900.oo to replace them in 2005. Just sayin

 

And, conversely, I have been pleasantly amazed recently when I've needed one thing or another, and reached under the workbench, or into a corner, and found just the right part, that I'd tossed there 35 years ago "just in case."

- Eric

 

Or had it laying around and was able to help another enthusiast out with a needed part.......every part regardless of value that gets thrown away is one less original part available for whoever may need it down the road.

 

Well said!!!

 

^^^ Agreed!
And to add, Chris, why haven't you built
a 69 H/O manny out of this one yet?

 

I have my cast iron intake in my shed "just in case". I've heard stories of Edelbrocks cracking below the carb so I'm holding on to it.

 

I am new to this hobby but have kept every original piece that I have replaced on my car just in case. If I ever sell the car or need a part I won't be angry that I got rid of the original pieces that can be re-used or rebuilt

 

As has been said, they has been no cases found of '66 blocks being used in '65 cars, service or not. But to pursue this line of thinking you can shed some more light on it by posting your engine date code and mold number located on the shelf under the distributor.

Not so totally outrageous, as he said "E blocks", not "'67 E blocks". Some late build '65 442s did get B heads (proven) and there is some compelling evidence that at least a few got spreadbore Quadrajets and intakes.

 

Well, sure, that could be done, what with the correctish divorced choke. The main stumbling block is the coolant bung holes. I hope that is the right term. Bosses for coolant sensors. E intake has but the one, whereas the J intakes have TWO - one on each side. I reckon the person seeking to have a replica intake would want one just like the real thing.

If anyone is willing to buy one made from an E intake, I will entertain that proposal. It would save quite a bit of coin, because there are no more J intakes handy, but I have several E intakes.

 

Sent PM to wmachine Oldoldsfan

 

I'm one of them. I recently sold off the dual quad Offy that was on my 65 442 as well as the Performer that was in the trunk. I wanted a stock type cast manifold, and found one nearby from a late sixties-early seventies 455 for my F block 455. I'm way past wanting loud noise, rumble and shaking when I drive. Hoping it'll just run smooth, quiet but still have some power.

 

Well............ the intake went sailing over the hill this morning!
I Tried to give it a chance on Ebay and it didn't sell so can't say I didn't try.

 

Too bad. I should've mentioned, I can never sell cast intakes on e-Bay. They're way too heavy and nobody wants to pay the freight. Always seems to be a CL contender. Big heavy stuff has to go local unless really rare and in demand. Small and light things go e-Bay. In between things, hit and miss.
I'm sure when I sell my 442 someone will take off the cast intake and put aluminum on again. It's just part of the game !!

 

I have A 1970 455 4BBL stock iron intake that I want to get rid of if anyone is interested. Bolts that hold stove in place are rusted/ twisted off. They will have to be drilled and tapped or heli coil. other than that in very nice shape. PM if interested