Red Delta

Is it the (new) mounts? Do I need to remove the crossmember for the trans? This son of a gun just doesn't want to fit. I made my lovely wife hang out in the garage for three hours while trying to make this seemingly round peg fit in a square hole.

At least it's close to where it needs to be....

Trans is connected and (somewhat) tight. I don't have the crossmember bolts attached, but there is no wiggle room.

This is the passenger side. It almost wants to go in, but is a bit to far forward to pop in.



Drivers side. The darned thing is aiming for the big hole and I want it in the smaller hole. I am at a loss as to which angle I should try again.

Getting it out was sooooo much easier.



Basically, it almost looks like the mounts don't want to work, but they match the old ones perfectly. Any suggestions will be appreciated.

svnt442

Did the car come with the 425 or was it a 330 car?
I don't know much about that type of mount, but it just looks like you have the wrong ones to me.

Red Delta

Stock engine, into the stock car.

BIGJERR

Loosen up the bolts on the block to give it some wiggle room........


or bolt it to the car then try to line up the block?

Yellowstatue

Cutlass's have multiple holes for different trannys, for the crossmember so maybe bolt the engine in first and see what happens out back...

Danny Wiseley

Jerry's right. Loosen the bolts slightly, let it down till it just barely touches the frame, and take a long pry bar and knock them into place. Be careful and don't hit the threads near the end, but high up next to the rubber. Then, re-tighten the bolts, and put the washers and nuts on the bottom. The next one will be easier!

svnt442

I don't know guys. That's looks close to 1½" off to me. I don't know that just loosening the bolts will do it. They still look like the wrong mounts to me.

66ninetyeightls

I would agree. Looks like wrong mounts. If you still have the old mounts compare them.

2blu442

Are you sure you have the right mounts? Do you have the old ones you removed? Attached are a couple photos of mounts from a 1967 Olds 98 with a 425 and a 1968 Delta Custom with a 455. I know the angles are not quite the same, but visually they look a little different from yours. It may be that my eyes are not as sharpe as they used to be... but it's worth checking out before you fight with it any more. John

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1967 Olds 98 425 drivers side

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1967 Olds 98 425 pass side

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1968 Delta Custom 455 drivers side

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1968 Delta Custom 455 pass side

BIGJERR

Look the same to me..........With those block bolts loose youll be surprised how much you will get free'd up to wiggle things around........

bigoldscruiser

I agree with BIGJERR. I have been there several times. I just bolt the mounts to the frame first - loosely - then lower the engine between them and install the bolts into the block. It's not easy that way either but patients will win out. At least that way you can stick a punch in the holes to help with alignment.

Oldsmaniac

You just need to "roll" the engine some and get the angle right. Dont bolt trans to crossmember till engine mounts are in. A floor jack under tailshaft of trans will let things move better than the trans setting on the crossmember. Dont be afraid to move the engine with a pipe or pry bar of some type.

Red Delta

Thanks for the help all. I took off the passenger side mount to (re) compare it to the stocker. The only difference was that the new one was a bit taller, which I attributed to being squished under the weight of the engine for forty years.

So instead of reinstalling it back onto the block, I attached it to the frame and used a ratchet strap to pull the engine over.

I slowly lowered the engine, guiding it into the drivers side hole and ensuring the bolt holes for the mount to block lined up on the other side.

Happily, it worked and I was able to line up the bolts to the engine with some ease.

It is now in the car and slowly being buttoned back together.

I lost one of the original square type washer in the frame, I used a circular washer as a replacement, this is ok?

Danny Wiseley

It's okay, if its as thick and as large as the original--doesn't have to be square.
DW

Eightupman

I thought the motor mounts were a mirror image of each other? I just installed a 350 into a 67 and I know 100% for sure, there was a left and a right mount because of the holes in the frame.

Would it be different for a BBO?

John