1964 442 Production Numbers
June 5th, 2017, 08:35 PM
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1964 442 Production Numbers
So according to the records I see there were 148 F-85 Club Coupe 442s in 1964. There were an additional 10 or so four doors on record. All the rest of the 442s that year were Cutlasses. I have 3027 F-85 Club Coupe 442 which is the base model. Apparently there were also 3127 F-85 442s as well which is the Deluxe model. Since both of the series are non-Cutlass models, would production for both of those series add up to the 148 Club Coupes reported or does the 148 only represent either the 3027 or the 3127?
June 6th, 2017, 10:09 AM
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So according to the records I see there were 148 F-85 Club Coupe 442s in 1964. There were an additional 10 or so four doors on record. All the rest of the 442s that year were Cutlasses. I have 3027 F-85 Club Coupe 442 which is the base model. Apparently there were also 3127 F-85 442s as well which is the Deluxe model. Since both of the series are non-Cutlass models, would production for both of those series add up to the 148 Club Coupes reported or does the 148 only represent either the 3027 or the 3127?
June 10th, 2017, 09:02 AM
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lansing used the 3127 but dressed as a cutlass 3227. The data plate still reads 3127 which can be confusing. Fremont changed their data plates to 3227 but used the 3127 as the ease to produce the 3227. My Fremont 64 442 has 3227 on the data plate but writing on interior panels states 3127. The 148 F85 sports coupes in production info are data tag 3027 (club coupe), the 3127 sports coupes are grouped with the 3227.
June 10th, 2017, 09:25 AM
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lansing used the 3127 but dressed as a cutlass 3227. The data plate still reads 3127 which can be confusing. Fremont changed their data plates to 3227 but used the 3127 as the ease to produce the 3227. My Fremont 64 442 has 3227 on the data plate but writing on interior panels states 3127. The 148 F85 sports coupes in production info are data tag 3027 (club coupe), the 3127 sports coupes are grouped with the 3227.
I realize that the body style isn't in the VIN in 1964, but the model line (30, 31, 32) is.
June 10th, 2017, 01:16 PM
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Joe is correct. The different plants didn't always change the data plate body style number. Rather it was the base body which was used to create the final product. For example, I have a 64 sports coupe 3027, but it's dressed as a 3227 on the outside. The VIN is 824D. Car was assembled in Kansas City. On the inside the interior is that of a 3027. My 64 442 has data plate 3227 dressed as a 3227 but has 3127 interior. The interior panels have hand writing that states 3127. VIN is 824F.
As you can can see the body style on the data plate states one thing but the VIN tells us it's a Cutlass denoted by the "2" in the VIN. If it was a club coupe it would have a "0" in place of the 2. The VIN tells the true story.
As you can can see the body style on the data plate states one thing but the VIN tells us it's a Cutlass denoted by the "2" in the VIN. If it was a club coupe it would have a "0" in place of the 2. The VIN tells the true story.
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June 13th, 2017, 08:20 AM
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Mine is 804M. Thanks for the discussion.
Joe is correct. The different plants didn't always change the data plate body style number. Rather it was the base body which was used to create the final product. For example, I have a 64 sports coupe 3027, but it's dressed as a 3227 on the outside. The VIN is 824D. Car was assembled in Kansas City. On the inside the interior is that of a 3027. My 64 442 has data plate 3227 dressed as a 3227 but has 3127 interior. The interior panels have hand writing that states 3127. VIN is 824F.
As you can can see the body style on the data plate states one thing but the VIN tells us it's a Cutlass denoted by the "2" in the VIN. If it was a club coupe it would have a "0" in place of the 2. The VIN tells the true story.
As you can can see the body style on the data plate states one thing but the VIN tells us it's a Cutlass denoted by the "2" in the VIN. If it was a club coupe it would have a "0" in place of the 2. The VIN tells the true story.
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there is another post floating around in this forum with production numbers from 1964. If you are searching for numbers produced by body style.
August 26th, 2021, 02:55 PM
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Joe is not trying to show production numbers. He’s saying that per the Oldsmobile marketing information, body style 3127 is an F85 sports coupe with V6 only. The 3027 body style (F85 club coupe) had V6 or could order 230hp V8. We also know from a list of known 64 442’s that lansing built sport coupe 442 cars had a dataplate with 3127 but the cars were dressed as a cutlass sports coupe, which is style 3227 an came standard with 290hp v8. The 442 got an extra 20hp with cam upgrade.
there is another post floating around in this forum with production numbers from 1964. If you are searching for numbers produced by body style.
there is another post floating around in this forum with production numbers from 1964. If you are searching for numbers produced by body style.
I would love to see the production numbers from 1964. Just so you have a little more background on my question to Joe. Joe said on a youtube video, featuring his 1964 442 F-85 Cutlass, that there were 436 Convertible Cutlass made in 1964. I had asked him if that was total "442" Convertibles or all convertibles. Joe pointed me to this page. So if you can understand my confusion, you are saying this chart doesn't show production numbers. I agree and was looking for more clarification. It would be super helpful if you could point me to the production numbers.
August 26th, 2021, 07:10 PM
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Thanks for pointing that out...
I would love to see the production numbers from 1964. Just so you have a little more background on my question to Joe. Joe said on a youtube video, featuring his 1964 442 F-85 Cutlass, that there were 436 Convertible Cutlass made in 1964. I had asked him if that was total "442" Convertibles or all convertibles. Joe pointed me to this page. So if you can understand my confusion, you are saying this chart doesn't show production numbers. I agree and was looking for more clarification. It would be super helpful if you could point me to the production numbers.
I would love to see the production numbers from 1964. Just so you have a little more background on my question to Joe. Joe said on a youtube video, featuring his 1964 442 F-85 Cutlass, that there were 436 Convertible Cutlass made in 1964. I had asked him if that was total "442" Convertibles or all convertibles. Joe pointed me to this page. So if you can understand my confusion, you are saying this chart doesn't show production numbers. I agree and was looking for more clarification. It would be super helpful if you could point me to the production numbers.
The total production of convertibles was 12,822, which includes the 436 442’s.
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August 27th, 2021, 05:30 AM
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Thanks very much for the production information. That's an awesome and helpful piece of history!
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