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Hi my name is Bryan, and I found this site a couple of days ago. I am in the process (will be 7 years in July) of restoring a 67-442. The majority of my mechanical experience is working on the old OHC230 Pontiac's. Right now I am trying to find out what header's work best on Oldsmobile's?
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Welcome to our site Bryan. Sounds like your restoration is a long and slow process, like most of our projects. About your headers, your selection may not be that large for the early Cutlass body style. For some of the B bodies they are non-existent becuase of the rear steer set-up. At any rate, there are a few guys here with that may be able to help you, I just wanted to welcome you to our site.
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I have had good fit (some modifications seems always necessary) with Hooker headers. I have a 67 442 convert stick car. Brake junction block needed to be relocated from side of driver's side frame to the top of frame. On the passenger side I had to grind off the edge of the upper control arm to keep it from denting the header tube there. Most likely the engine will have to be unbolted from mounts and jacked up some to get the driver's side on.....this is what I remember for my 67.
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Thanks for the advise Oldsmaniac. You have found the flange thickness on the Hooker Headers to be sufficient?
You are correct modifications will be a major issue. I forgot to mention the car currently has a 396021F 455, I do have the correct VxxxxxxG sitting on an engine stand. There is absolutely no room on the driver's side less than 2 inches between steering shaft and the current set of warped header's (at least 1 dent in tubing for clearance). Previously I have been able to loosen the header and slide a new gasket into place, the effectiveness of this lazy man repair is about 500 miles at best.
You are correct modifications will be a major issue. I forgot to mention the car currently has a 396021F 455, I do have the correct VxxxxxxG sitting on an engine stand. There is absolutely no room on the driver's side less than 2 inches between steering shaft and the current set of warped header's (at least 1 dent in tubing for clearance). Previously I have been able to loosen the header and slide a new gasket into place, the effectiveness of this lazy man repair is about 500 miles at best.
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If you can build you own tubes this guy sells heavy duty flanges, laser cut.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=133375
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=133375
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Thanks for the information Oldsguy. I do not have that much talent with a welder. However, my friend who is helping with the 442 does. He built a pair of headers for the 401 nailhead in his 65 Gran Sport, that job was a nightmare.
Bryan
Bryan
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Once again thanks for the help Oldsmaniac. You are also correct about the block identification, I was going by a piece of paper the previous owner had given me. 67’ Olds engine no. #V2xxxx1G. I cannot remember what part of the engine has this stamping (exhaust manifolds?), I have a restoration guide somewhere that explains the importance of the V six digit G code to the 67 442. The block number is actually 390925E, I found this stamped on top of the block (above timing chain). I have input my VIN number into a site a member recommended to a new member several weeks back. The car is a 67 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Coupe, and 5VY are the final symbols on the cowl tag.
Sorry for the long winded post. I am trying to find out as much as I can about my car as possible. All input is greatly appreciated.
Sorry for the long winded post. I am trying to find out as much as I can about my car as possible. All input is greatly appreciated.
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Bryan
This is John down in Medford. I've got a 1967 442 hardtop, a 67 Cutlass hardtop and a rusty 67 convertible, all project cars! A web site I found that has a lot of 1967 details is:
http://www.oldsmobility.com/
You might check it out when you have time. The guy that runs the site knows a lot more about 1967's than I do! John
This is John down in Medford. I've got a 1967 442 hardtop, a 67 Cutlass hardtop and a rusty 67 convertible, all project cars! A web site I found that has a lot of 1967 details is:
http://www.oldsmobility.com/
You might check it out when you have time. The guy that runs the site knows a lot more about 1967's than I do! John
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Hey thanks John,
I have spent a lot of time at that site for 67 442 it listed the V200001G in the engine codes section, instead of the 390925E that I found listed
elsewhere. The number that I have is within this range. According to a thread in the restoration section of real olds power the V200001G is stamped on the heads of a 67-442.
Have you ever found any parts at the swap meet in Portland?
Bryan
I have spent a lot of time at that site for 67 442 it listed the V200001G in the engine codes section, instead of the 390925E that I found listed
elsewhere. The number that I have is within this range. According to a thread in the restoration section of real olds power the V200001G is stamped on the heads of a 67-442.
Have you ever found any parts at the swap meet in Portland?
Bryan
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Hello Bryan
If you have time yes I would check out the Portland Swap meet. It's a hit or miss thing, you may only find 1 or 2 out of every 100 vendors with Oldsmobile stuff. But sometimes they don't see much value in it so you can get some good deals. I used to live up at Detroit Oregon, East of Salem and went every year. Since I've moved down here I've not gone to the trouble. Also, there's a lot more older cars down here than up there in the Willamette Valley. I could spend all my time pulling cars out of the weeds and reviving or parting them out if I didn't have my day job
If you have time yes I would check out the Portland Swap meet. It's a hit or miss thing, you may only find 1 or 2 out of every 100 vendors with Oldsmobile stuff. But sometimes they don't see much value in it so you can get some good deals. I used to live up at Detroit Oregon, East of Salem and went every year. Since I've moved down here I've not gone to the trouble. Also, there's a lot more older cars down here than up there in the Willamette Valley. I could spend all my time pulling cars out of the weeds and reviving or parting them out if I didn't have my day job
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Bryan,
Welcome to the site. I too have a 67 4-4-2 Holiday Coupe that I am restoring. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. It's good to know people working on the same year and model of car, to share ideas and information.
Oldsmobility.com is a great site for the 67 442's. Lots of good information.
Again, welcome.
Welcome to the site. I too have a 67 4-4-2 Holiday Coupe that I am restoring. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions. It's good to know people working on the same year and model of car, to share ideas and information.
Oldsmobility.com is a great site for the 67 442's. Lots of good information.
Again, welcome.
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