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Someone I used to work with said in those days his mother went to a Chevy dealer and picked out a Chevy SS, that was the only script on it. It was a 4 door, with a 396 and a 4 speed. The back seat was made of cardboard. What year it was, he couldn't remember. Does anyone know if this car and the 442 above actually existed? Or was it a tall tale?
Someone I used to work with said in those days his mother went to a Chevy dealer and picked out a Chevy SS, that was the only script on it. It was a 4 door, with a 396 and a 4 speed. The back seat was made of cardboard. What year it was, he couldn't remember. Does anyone know if this car and the 442 above actually existed? Or was it a tall tale?
I'm gonna say yours is a tall tale, but the availability of 4-door 4-4-2s in 1964 is well documented.
Someone I used to work with said in those days his mother went to a Chevy dealer and picked out a Chevy SS, that was the only script on it. It was a 4 door, with a 396 and a 4 speed. The back seat was made of cardboard. What year it was, he couldn't remember. Does anyone know if this car and the 442 above actually existed? Or was it a tall tale?
The early SS package was a trim package you could get on any body style.
There are SS cars with inline 6's and more doors.
I have pics of this car @ Homecoming from a couple of years ago, posted it here and told that it was a clone.
I also had pics of a 65 with the police package and was told the same thing. Car was saffron colored IIRC. It also had motor work done by Mondello back in the day.
The early SS package was a trim package you could get on any body style.
There are SS cars with inline 6's and more doors.
The SS package came out in 1961. Although many were 409's it could be had with a 6 cylinder. A couple years ago Old Cars Monthly featured a 63 SS convertible with a 6 cylinder. I have never seen any pictures or literature that referred to a 4 door SS. I might be wrong (not the first or last time) but I would say the 4 door SS is fiction.
The early SS package was a trim package you could get on any body style.
There are SS cars with inline 6's and more doors.
While you could get pretty much any available engine and drivetrain in your SS in any year, the only year the SS option could be ordered in anything other than a 2-door hardtop or convertible configuration was the inaugural year, 1961.
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You could get convertibles. I still doubt the 4 door SS. I am going to drop this one since this is a thread about 4 door 442's which I know were available.
You could get convertibles. I still doubt the 4 door SS. I am going to drop this one since this is a thread about 4 door 442's which I know were available.
You are right on both counts. I've edited my post accordingly.
While you could get pretty much any available engine and drivetrain in your SS in any year, the only year the SS option could be ordered in anything other than a 2-door hardtop or convertible configuration was the inaugural year, 1961.
Come on, you knew I was talking about the old school first-gen SS, right?
No, the words only in 1961, is what I went by..
The fact is, back then, you could get whatever you wanted built even if it wasn't publicly avail. on the option sheet.
This also causes problems now, as the history buffs, will tell a guy with a car that shouldn't be that ordered it and is the original owner with the paperwork, and photo's of it coming off the transporter at the dealership that it was never built.
Part of the charm of those days, if you had a good sales manager at a big dealership you could get something you wanted that wasn't the norm. built. unlike today.
If that's the same more-door 64 that was at Seven Springs in 2009, I was also told it was a, ah, "recreation"
. My problem with this car is he presented it as the real deal when I talked to him briefly. I asked "one of ten", his response "one of seven". Must have been one of seven clones. It was a nice car, just need to be honest when displaying it.
. My problem with this car is he presented it as the real deal when I talked to him briefly. I asked "one of ten", his response "one of seven". Must have been one of seven clones. It was a nice car, just need to be honest when displaying it.
I thought the ten more doors broke down to three F-85 and seven F-85 Deluxe models. The blue car is a Deluxe. I have no knowledge of it's reality or not, just "I was told".
The fact is, back then, you could get whatever you wanted built even if it wasn't publicly avail. on the option sheet.
This is the mantra used by every shuckster out there to justify options and colors that just were't available. Yes, you could get many items ordered from the factory, and 99.9% of them were on the options list to be ordered if you wanted them. Paint colors from other manufacturers were also done, for a fee, but the idea that you could get whatever you wanted on your car is b.s., dealers used the ordering guides to fulfill the customers wishes, but you can bet that they said "no" or "not available a lot.
I thought the ten more doors broke down to three F-85 and seven F-85 Deluxe models. The blue car is a Deluxe. I have no knowledge of it's reality or not, just "I was told"
. I didn't think about the model break down, thanks.
This is the mantra used by every shuckster out there to justify options and colors that just were't available.
^^^THIS. Every one-of-none car has a BS "special order" story to justify the stupid money asking price. Suffice to say that Olds did NOT have an anything-goes policy. Did cars with unavailable options get built? Yes, such as the 1968 Vista Cruiser with the 68 H/O engine, O.A.I., and suspension. This was NOT a production build for sale to the public - it was built by Oldsmobile Engineering and given to the motoring press for drive tests to generate positive marketing articles. Car and Driver wrote about this car in detail and specifically pointed out that it was not for sale.
Cars sold to the public were covered by warranties. They needed to be able to be serviced by the dealerships and replacement parts needed to be available. ANY deviation from the planned production configurations was fully documented in engineering orders and dealer service bulletins. As an example, late in the 1967 model year about 750 330 motors were built using 1968 350 motor block and head castings. This is documented in detail in a Dealer Service Bulletin, including part numbers for service.
Also, the odds of a car having something unusual as a special order, and the car still being around, and that something special being known about, and it being for sale, and the seller aggressively pushing that fact, adds up to baloney.
It's much more likely to find some repainted project that has a weird cowl tag code calling for an oddball color than THE ONLY TRIPOWER W-30 67 442 WITH AC KNOWN TO MANKIND; SIMULTANEOUSLY OWNED BY ELVIS, TED KENNEDY, AND ADAM WEST.
This is the mantra used by every shuckster out there to justify options and colors that just were't available. Yes, you could get many items ordered from the factory, and 99.9% of them were on the options list to be ordered if you wanted them. Paint colors from other manufacturers were also done, for a fee, but the idea that you could get whatever you wanted on your car is b.s., dealers used the ordering guides to fulfill the customers wishes, but you can bet that they said "no" or "not available a lot.
Not to get off the subject but the one special order car I like is the 1966 Dodge Coronet Hemi 4 door , only 4 made. The one pictured is at the Don Garlits museum. Good post, I've never heard of a 4 door 442 myself.
Sorry shift, only the almighty Joe P. can do that. Nice Coronet by the way.
Please tell me why people say "not to hijack this thread" or "not to get off the subject" right before they hijack the thread or change the subject? Is that a get out of jail free card or something?
Using that logic, I guess is should start all my posts with "Not to be an @$$hole, but..."
And yes, I just hijacked this thread. Sorry for the diversion.
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