Cowl tag 442 -69
April 7th, 2013, 09:18 AM
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Cowl tag 442 -69
Hello my dear oldsfriends!
I need your knowledge in decoding the tag of my '69 442 vert. I have read so many times that it would NOT say 34467, but mine does! How come? another issue is the paint, i have spoke to owners back to 1975, they said the car was gold, and i had the body stripped to bare metal in the 90's the only paint i could see was just gold, and a later overspray in blue, but i think the tag says 59, wich is meadow green, and as far as i can tell this car have never been green. But there is a big "gap" between the 59 and B, could this mean that the colour is unspecified?
BODY BY FISHER 1 1
ST 69 34467 BL 23 BDY
TR 930 927 99659 B PNT
101 A31 U75
GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION
This is exactly how the tag looks. The car is very well optioned with power windows, power seat, AC, Rally pack, 4 spd m-20, power antenna, the interior is black buckets wich i think the "930" stands for, and the top is black,"B". "927" and "99659" are riddles to me, timebuilt code says "101" could this be 1st week of Oct '68, due to the low body number? Vin is 344679E106061.
Thanks , Anders, Sweden.
I need your knowledge in decoding the tag of my '69 442 vert. I have read so many times that it would NOT say 34467, but mine does! How come? another issue is the paint, i have spoke to owners back to 1975, they said the car was gold, and i had the body stripped to bare metal in the 90's the only paint i could see was just gold, and a later overspray in blue, but i think the tag says 59, wich is meadow green, and as far as i can tell this car have never been green. But there is a big "gap" between the 59 and B, could this mean that the colour is unspecified?
BODY BY FISHER 1 1
ST 69 34467 BL 23 BDY
TR 930 927 99659 B PNT
101 A31 U75
GENERAL MOTORS CORPORATION
This is exactly how the tag looks. The car is very well optioned with power windows, power seat, AC, Rally pack, 4 spd m-20, power antenna, the interior is black buckets wich i think the "930" stands for, and the top is black,"B". "927" and "99659" are riddles to me, timebuilt code says "101" could this be 1st week of Oct '68, due to the low body number? Vin is 344679E106061.
Thanks , Anders, Sweden.
Last edited by Backstrom; April 7th, 2013 at 01:50 PM. Reason: The spelling, the spelling!!
April 7th, 2013, 10:28 AM
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They don't say that the cowl tag will NOT say 34467, they all say that MANY do not say 34467. There are many documented 69 442s with 344xx cowl tags, and at least as many with 336xx tags. Again, this is normal and well documented in factory literature.
April 7th, 2013, 11:18 AM
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Because you need to re-read all those posts.
They don't say that the cowl tag will NOT say 34467, they all say that MANY do not say 34467. There are many documented 69 442s with 344xx cowl tags, and at least as many with 336xx tags. Again, this is normal and well documented in factory literature.
They don't say that the cowl tag will NOT say 34467, they all say that MANY do not say 34467. There are many documented 69 442s with 344xx cowl tags, and at least as many with 336xx tags. Again, this is normal and well documented in factory literature.
April 7th, 2013, 01:41 PM
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Ok, Thanks, I'm truly amazed by the knowledge you guys have.
I can tell you the car was imported to Sweden in '75, but i dont know if it came from the US or Canada, importer is out of business, and first swedish owner dont know. There was a huge amount of american muscle cars litterally flooding into sweden back then, I have friends who went to Gothenburg almost every weekend to look for newcoming cars, They used to help the car companies to drive the cars from the harbour to the shop and they have told there were more top notch than plain Janes. A hemi Charger or any chebby SS396-454 were no strange cars in the port of Gothenburg.
A result of this is that you can see a small amount of 4-door post cars in ads, they're almost always sold new in Sweden, the rest of the american cars are hardtops or verts.
I can tell you the car was imported to Sweden in '75, but i dont know if it came from the US or Canada, importer is out of business, and first swedish owner dont know. There was a huge amount of american muscle cars litterally flooding into sweden back then, I have friends who went to Gothenburg almost every weekend to look for newcoming cars, They used to help the car companies to drive the cars from the harbour to the shop and they have told there were more top notch than plain Janes. A hemi Charger or any chebby SS396-454 were no strange cars in the port of Gothenburg.
A result of this is that you can see a small amount of 4-door post cars in ads, they're almost always sold new in Sweden, the rest of the american cars are hardtops or verts.
Is there any way you could post a clear picture of this tag? There are a few things that seem out of place.
April 7th, 2013, 03:24 PM
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69 = 1969
34467 = 442 Drop Top
BL = Lindon New Jersey Assembly Plant
23 = Body Unit # (Super Low)
930 = Black themed interior with Black Strato Bucket Seats
927-99659 = DuPont Paint Code Special Order color for 1970 lineup Nugget Gold Poly
B = Black Convertible Top
101 = Begin build date should be a two digit number and a letter 10 = Oct '68 1? = 1st week?
A31 = Electric 4-window lifts
U75 = Electric Antenna
34467 = 442 Drop Top
BL = Lindon New Jersey Assembly Plant
23 = Body Unit # (Super Low)
930 = Black themed interior with Black Strato Bucket Seats
927-99659 = DuPont Paint Code Special Order color for 1970 lineup Nugget Gold Poly
B = Black Convertible Top
101 = Begin build date should be a two digit number and a letter 10 = Oct '68 1? = 1st week?
A31 = Electric 4-window lifts
U75 = Electric Antenna
April 8th, 2013, 09:23 AM
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Geez, Scot, guess if you have made my day!
I had my doubts about somebody tampered or faked the tag, since the tag wasn't on the body when i first bought it, i have actually been having it in a drawer for 15 years, but that special colour option cleared things a little. Everything on the car matches! I believed the car was Topaz #65, but the original colour is more to yellow. I'll try to scan it an post.
Even the lousy weather feels wonderful today, You rock!! / Anders
I had my doubts about somebody tampered or faked the tag, since the tag wasn't on the body when i first bought it, i have actually been having it in a drawer for 15 years, but that special colour option cleared things a little. Everything on the car matches! I believed the car was Topaz #65, but the original colour is more to yellow. I'll try to scan it an post.
Even the lousy weather feels wonderful today, You rock!! / Anders
Last edited by Backstrom; April 8th, 2013 at 09:37 AM.
April 8th, 2013, 10:36 AM
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Nope! The tag says 101, there is no doubt about that. But i still believe it means 1st week oct '68. I have read somewhere on co that nugget gold poly was a Toro color for '69, but could be special ordered for A bodies, Do you know more?
posting more pictures, i hope they are better.
/Anders
posting more pictures, i hope they are better.
/Anders
Last edited by Backstrom; April 8th, 2013 at 10:38 AM. Reason: Sweden's worst photographer!!
April 8th, 2013, 11:08 AM
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Does anyone know where to buy rivets that look factory? It seems i have a not so usual car, so it should definitively have a cowl tag. Thanx for all the facts i have been given, my gratitude has no limits. /Anders, a happy Swede.
April 8th, 2013, 11:13 AM
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