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Old July 18th, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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71 Olds 442 search price and thoughts please

Going to look at a 1971 Olds 442 with a ram air good.
Motor numbers matching unknown, (consider not) but is the correct date coded 455.
Car is primered and needs complete interior redone.
Stock color code is black/black
Motor and transmission are rebuilt
no rust
Fairly vague but what is the going price for a project car of this caliber? Anyway of telling if the ram air was stock or does it even add value.
Anything I should look for when I go look/buy this car.

Old July 18th, 2020 | 08:10 PM
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No way to estimate value from this info. Body condition is a huge variable. Primer is typically shot to cover a multitude of sins. See if they have any pictures before the cover up.
Old July 18th, 2020 | 08:39 PM
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No way to estimate value from this info. Body condition is a huge variable. Primer is typically shot to cover a multitude of sins. See if they have any pictures before the cover up.
Let's assume all rust or dents were fixed correctly (doubtful but) and the car is ready for paint.
Old July 18th, 2020 | 09:53 PM
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You've got like 10% of the information you need.

If it's a hard top, 4 speed, good options car with original engine that runs well and you can drive the thing, and the body is either good, or repaired well, and the interior is good, no leaks, and everything works and it drives well and all it really needs is a paint job, and that it is an Olds W-25 hood or a Thornton, and all the OAI stuff is there and good, $8k.

If it's a post, low option, automatic, non original engine, doesn't run, has rust under the primer, crap interior, stuff leaks, won't drive, needs everything and that is some **** glasstek hood, $3500.
Old July 19th, 2020 | 06:08 AM
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Ok maybe going about this the wrong way.
What would a RESTORED mid grade restored car sell for range? Driver quality.
1971 Olds 442,
Matching numbers 455 with ram air
Rebuilt motor and transmission (auto)
AC, PB
2 dr. Plain Back Hardtop Coupe, Arlington Texas
​​​​​​Black code car
bucket seats, console
Black interior
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Old July 19th, 2020 | 05:42 PM
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Look for an old cars price guide on the web or check the Hagarty classic car value site.
Old July 19th, 2020 | 09:20 PM
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Price. Now im no expert but if the described here (If it's a hard top, 4 speed, good options car with original engine that runs well and you can drive the thing, and the body is either good, or repaired well, and the interior is good, no leaks, and everything works and it drives well and all it really needs is a paint job, and that it is an Olds W-25 hood or a Thornton, and all the OAI stuff is there and good, $8k.)was near me at that price 8k I would buy as many as I could.Where I live if the car described here had a good paint job they would be asking and getting 35-40k if not more. As for the hood it adds value. Originals I read are going for 5k but even if its not I think the hood makes the car. The Check the trunk for signs of rear quarter repair and rust, also rusted along edge of trunk. The hood should be fiberglass with a metal frame. The oai should say oldsmobile on the inside in large molded in letters.Now u say the body is good but needs a interior , rebuilt but not original motor, as was mentioned u are missing a lot of info. Car history , paper work, does it drive now ,etc. I would say some where between 8k-12k. Non original motor ,interior etc I would expect a finished value of 25k-35k but again a lot of missing info.
Old July 20th, 2020 | 11:31 AM
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Price. Now im no expert but if the described here (If it's a hard top, 4 speed, good options car with original engine that runs well and you can drive the thing, and the body is either good, or repaired well, and the interior is good, no leaks, and everything works and it drives well and all it really needs is a paint job, and that it is an Olds W-25 hood or a Thornton, and all the OAI stuff is there and good, $8k.)was near me at that price 8k I would buy as many as I could.Where I live if the car described here had a good paint job they would be asking and getting 35-40k if not more. As for the hood it adds value. Originals I read are going for 5k but even if its not I think the hood makes the car. The Check the trunk for signs of rear quarter repair and rust, also rusted along edge of trunk. The hood should be fiberglass with a metal frame. The oai should say oldsmobile on the inside in large molded in letters.Now u say the body is good but needs a interior , rebuilt but not original motor, as was mentioned u are missing a lot of info. Car history , paper work, does it drive now ,etc. I would say some where between 8k-12k. Non original motor ,interior etc I would expect a finished value of 25k-35k but again a lot of missing info.
just found out, car is not matching numbers, Looks to be a 1968 motor. The car is an automatic not 4 speed. How can you tell if the hood is an original besides the seller telling he thinks it is.
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The underside of the hood would be a metal frame. If it is fiberglass then it is a repop knock off
Old July 21st, 2020 | 07:57 AM
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The underside of the hood would be a metal frame. If it is fiberglass then it is a repop knock off
looks like surface rust underneath so that might be right.

Old July 21st, 2020 | 09:55 AM
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The underside of the hood would be a metal frame. If it is fiberglass then it is a repop knock off
Not necessarily. I have a repop with a metal subframe.
Old July 21st, 2020 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by VI Cutty
Not necessarily. I have a repop with a metal subframe.
Actually he's right. None of the OEM hoods from the factory were all fibreglass, so an all fibreglass one would indeed be a repop. Granted there are places like Thornton who manufacture the hoods with metal subframes and sell them direct, or through vendors like Fusick or Parts Place, but those are also reproductions done to a much higher standard. The hood on this car looks proper. Other things that tend to lend authenticity is the brake booster with proper period correct stamping and 4row radiator. I would love to see the rest of the car. That hood alone is worth big bucks. The hard part is knowing whether hood parts are part of the original build, or swapped out from a wreck. Not a W30, as the wheel liners are black. On a 71 they would be red for W30's.

For a period correct hood, look for a stamping from the press that did the metal insert. It will be a W number somewhere on the metal - usually the perimeter area. The W is the press, and the number will be the week of manufacture. Eg: W12 -press W week 12. I don't believe Thorntons has that.
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