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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 09:07 AM
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67 w30

There is a 1967 442 W30 for sale on Ebay. Anyone here know anything about the car? Any help with verifying the car? Thanks for any help

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomas Simcich
There is a 1967 442 W30 for sale on Ebay. Anyone here know anything about the car? Any help with verifying the car? Thanks for any help
I believe you are referring to the red Sports Coupe. That ad should throw up all kinds of red flags, and for good reason. The flipper (seller) is either a liar or doesn't know crap about cars, let alone Olds, let alone '67 W30s.
Others that know of this car say it has an October build date, so that alone rules it out as an original W30. And it goes downhill from there. The window sticker is a fake, and a bad one of that. I think the "numbers match" his social security number.
One of Fraud's finest hours.......
Old Jan 11, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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If it is indeed that car, and I did my weekly 66 67 ebay prowl today, so it must be, since it's the only one there, I concur with our esteemed colleague.

It's a 67 Cutlass. It may be a 442, but we'd need to see the cowl tag. I want to know the casting of the engine, and the code of the transmission. Right now, it appears to be a 442 with w-30 parts.

The sticker, which is badly typed, had lots of errors as noted above. Specific ones I saw was both options A01 and A02, when A01 includes A02. Prices were wrong on some options, and option V01 does not, to my knowledge, exist for at least that year. Y-76 is the relevant option, called Heavy Duty Cooling.

Olds never had a leather option for at least that year (and I haven't heard of it for others) and the console tach is incorrect (Ralley Pack or idiot lights in 67).

The car is probably a numbers matching 442, but it is not a w-30, in my judgment.
Old Jan 11, 2014 | 03:42 PM
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No mention of having the P-O-P, so again, what numbers "match"?

Oh, and the photo of (presumably) this car with a car cover over it is quite helpful in determining what to bid...
Old Jan 11, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Here you go...........cowl tag says it all!
Have more pictures he sent me if anyone else is interested.
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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 06:27 PM
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The rivets look way wrong to me and I've seen a few of them.
Old Jan 11, 2014 | 06:29 PM
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Here are more pictures..

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Cheers,

Sam

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Old Jan 11, 2014 | 09:44 PM
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I don't like those rivets either. Tag data seems ok, I can't seem to figure out what Group 5 code J is. It SHOULD have a 5Y for those deluxe belts, unless J is red ones, I don't know.

I guess it's a rebody Cutlass with a dead 442's cowl tag now?
Old Jan 12, 2014 | 09:02 AM
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Could someone decode the cowl tag?
Old Jan 12, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 72xw30
Here you go...........cowl tag says it all!
Have more pictures he sent me if anyone else is interested.
Cheers,
Sam



10A A
ST 67-33807 LAN 1282 BODY
TR 395-B R-R PAINT
2LG
4F 5VJ

First Week of October, week A of the 10th Month. Not sure what the other
A is, might be like the 66's hole for shoulder belt reinforcements.

Cutlass Supreme Sports Coupe, Lansing plant, 1282nd Sports Coupe that year from that line.

Red bucket seats for a Sports Coupe

Spanish Red paint top and bottom (R-R)

4 speed car, with console (L and G)

Remote Mirror (F)

442 Package (V)

No clue on the J, it does not show up on my source for decode. It is in the same group as deluxe belts normally are, and the car HAS them, but they are red belt, so maybe it's color coded Deluxe Belts.

Oh, I found it on another source. J is Deluxe Belts, with rear seat center belt.

I really need to combine a few sources into a PDF for the 67.
Old Jan 12, 2014 | 08:56 PM
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338077M132188 is an appropriate VIN & sequence for a first week of October '66 built 442. As stated above - Too early for a W30.
Old Jan 13, 2014 | 05:22 AM
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Looks like it is a pretty nice Sports Coupe. Too bad it is mired in all of the BS the buyer is claiming.
The next owner will find out the car is not a factory W30 as claimed. I'm guessing the seller doesn't know he can be prosecuted for misrepresenting the car.
Old Jan 13, 2014 | 06:28 AM
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To me the cowl tag rivets appear to be sitting on top of the sealer/goop that usually covers the rivet.
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