damascus

what do you all think of this car?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1970-...item1c0defef2e

sixty9olds

From what I can see it needs a ton of work. The things I can't see, probably a ton more. I'm not a big fan of projects in the trunk vehicles. Maybe if he had called it a barn find it would be more valuable?

OLD SKL 69

Ditto on the ton o work comment. That's a lot of money for something that needs a lot of work and no 442 documentation. He's asking for more money than I paid for my 69 and my 69 was in much better condition.

Allan R

Run Simba!! Run far!! Run fast!! Don't look back!!! The moneypit awaits. Just way too much has been modified on that thing. I wouldn't buy it.

Snowdog

$500.00 Top bid from me

agtw31

junk

lshlsh2

Too much work for me.

The sunroof isn't that after market?

kaz442

342 vin its just a cutlass. Gold paint on motor, just a 350. Its a $500 at most parts car.
JKaz

mugzilla

no strut rod in the fender holes...

The hood and wing must be worth $1000 ..?

svnt442

It looks to be an original hood. Not sure about the wing.

The original color of the car was "Burnished Gold" with a brown vinyl top.

That explains the brown door panels.

joe_padavano

Cutlass Supreme, actually. Considering that it has the "57" notchback body, what else could it be?

damascus

the huge Dr. Olds decals ROCK!

ozbie

...parts car, have you guys actually looked at what individual 442 parts are going for on eBay, I'd say this car is well worth the price for parts alone...$120 for a 442 emblem package

Allan R

Yes, we pretty much do know what it costs for parts. New and used. Used parts can be had cheaper, but you pay for reburshment unless you are a wizard at restoring yourself. I've bought many a NOS part on the web, and many an authorized GM aftermarket part, so I do know how much money I've spent over the years. I also have bought used OEM parts that were in decent shape but needed help to look new. Restoration is a big $$$ business if you are a restorer. There are a few nice options in the goody bag of parts boxes, but that's not a good enough incentive to buy. Most of us know that you need to start with something worth restoring if its going to be a project. BTW, I don't see any 120.00 442 emblem packages on this car. As Joe P said, it's a plain Cutlass Supreme. To be honest, if you think you can make a go of parting it out, buy it and go for the gusto. (I'm not being snide or trying to be a smartass, there's just way to much that would have to be done to this car to make it worth the effort). Anyway, that's one of the nice things about this site: everyone has an opinion and is allowed to voice it. Soooooo, are you going to buy the car??....Tell you what, Challenge time. Put a list of the parts you think are worth salvaging on this car together and post it with what you think would be a fair selling price. Get a grand total, factor in your labor to dismantle, market and package and ship. It will help you understand some of the comments others have made. Oh, the hood is definitely worth at least 800.00 but you can get aftermarket ones from vendors now with the steel liners (new) for 729.

Last thing I would like to ask: What do you classify as 442 parts? Most of the parts on this car could be ordered or be on any other 1970 Cutlass. The term 442 is way overused and overstated on the web. Too many sellers look at parts with the idea it's worth way more than it is. They want the price of what it would be worth after restoration, instead of the actual condition price. That's one of the biggest rubs in the parts market. IMO the term 442 as a reference as a selling point is mostly used to trigger search engines when you're surfing the web for parts. Helps sellers get hits and then while you're there you might as well check out what else is on that site.

ozbie

Perhaps my 442 reference was a little misleading...I'm just alluding to the high cost of parts for Cutlass's in general. I'm new to the Cutlass culture after just aquiring a project car through a friend, a project which was missing many key parts. I became very discouraged when I started looking for replacement parts...and found that there were lots of parts available although the prices on inidividual parts whether OEM or aftermarket would put my project well beyond the vehicles worth. I finally ended up purchasing a parts car and I believe that I can make a pretty decent project and still stay within a sane budget. Having said that, yes perhaps this Cutlass might be a bit optimistic by about a grand.

joe_padavano

And once again, do not confuse asking price with selling price...

ozbie

http://cgi.ebay.ca/1972-CUTLASS-442-...item518e37881a

Allan R

ozbie,
Vendor prices at Parts Place, Fusicks, Tamraz, Supercars Unlimited, Year One, etc are generally not negotiable. The ad you refered to with the 442 numbers? The asking price IS the selling price. No negotiation. That's not what Joe was alluding to. When cars and parts are put on auction as an open market bidding war, that's what we're talking about. A lot of sellers put items on the market with an inflated expectation of it's value. I, for one, know what Joe says is true and support his comment 110%.

I'm glad to hear that you have an Olds project to keep you busy. It only has to end up as good as you want it to. Not every car has to be rebuilt to new standards. Something to keep in mind when you're looking at a budget. We've all been there and know what you're trying to express. Hang in there and good luck with your project.

mugzilla

I bought a set and they are off in the width by a good 32th" ...

You won't win a trophy with that cr***...