Converter stall question
#1
Converter stall question
Hello everyone,
I have a 1971 olds cutlass S with a 350 olds (engine was a 2bbl, stock 8.5 compression ratio, already swapped to edelbrock performer intake and quadrajet, which made a good difference, MSD ignition and Headers), stock cam and stock #7 heads, turbo 350 with stock converter (1200 stall?) and the looong open 2.56 rearend.
The car is running fine, but i know, the 2.56 is way too long. Im looking for better off-the-line performance, so im going to change to 3.23 and an eaton truetrac carrier. Parts are already lying in my garage.
Now i have a few questions:
Will a higher torque converter be better with the 3.23 gears? Maybe a 2000 stall or something?
Will a 2000 stall converter work with stock cam?
Im looking forward to a mild engine rebuild with none - dish pistons to get about 9.5 ratio, cam swap (are there some recomendations for stock heads?)
Im not racing the car, i just want it to have better off the line performance and wake this olds 350 up a bit.
Im thankful for any part tips, and ideas!
Greetings from austria!
I have a 1971 olds cutlass S with a 350 olds (engine was a 2bbl, stock 8.5 compression ratio, already swapped to edelbrock performer intake and quadrajet, which made a good difference, MSD ignition and Headers), stock cam and stock #7 heads, turbo 350 with stock converter (1200 stall?) and the looong open 2.56 rearend.
The car is running fine, but i know, the 2.56 is way too long. Im looking for better off-the-line performance, so im going to change to 3.23 and an eaton truetrac carrier. Parts are already lying in my garage.
Now i have a few questions:
Will a higher torque converter be better with the 3.23 gears? Maybe a 2000 stall or something?
Will a 2000 stall converter work with stock cam?
Im looking forward to a mild engine rebuild with none - dish pistons to get about 9.5 ratio, cam swap (are there some recomendations for stock heads?)
Im not racing the car, i just want it to have better off the line performance and wake this olds 350 up a bit.
Im thankful for any part tips, and ideas!
Greetings from austria!
#2
#4
Yes, the stock 1600 to 1700 flash stall sucks. Yeah a 2000 to 2200 stall will work better. You will probably be on the lower end of any converters rating, so choose accordingly.
#5
Thanls for your answer, ive thought about 2000 stall too. Are all converters for the Th 350 the same?
Are the no different flexplate-bolt patterns between chevy, pontiac, buick and olds?
Are the no different flexplate-bolt patterns between chevy, pontiac, buick and olds?
#6
Get one with the lugs and bolts vs the bolt and nut. There is a large and small bolt pattern. The Jegs 2000 to 2300 stall has bolt and lug, right bolt pattern, good reviews and costs about $130.
Last edited by olds 307 and 403; October 7th, 2019 at 08:34 PM.
#7
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...4KVBd1QM2yqcPN
This is the converter, pretty sure the pic is wrong, supposed to be a B+M, which are bolt and lug.
This is the converter, pretty sure the pic is wrong, supposed to be a B+M, which are bolt and lug.
#8
The 2000-2500 stall would work nicely with all the above. My first care was a stock 68 Camaro with stock cam/2barrel carb. Replaced the trans with a 350 turbo and 2000 - 2500 stall and with stock 3:08 gears it was like night and day off the line. Somehow I kept replacing the right rear tire..... : D
#9
https://www.jegs.com/p/TCI/TCI-Satur...47582/10002/-1
Heres the TCI selection chart from Jegs,
Note the big n small block columns on right.
Any high-quality converter is good as long as its stall is as advertised. Coan, B&M, Hughes etc...I like TCI parts. You should consider going through the trans too. Beef it up with a fresh rebuild some minor mods to up the line psi and firm up the shifts. MAW!
Heres the TCI selection chart from Jegs,
Note the big n small block columns on right.
Any high-quality converter is good as long as its stall is as advertised. Coan, B&M, Hughes etc...I like TCI parts. You should consider going through the trans too. Beef it up with a fresh rebuild some minor mods to up the line psi and firm up the shifts. MAW!
Last edited by droldsmorland; January 30th, 2020 at 05:49 PM.
#10
Thank you for your answers!
I found a shortly used, but close to new B&M 20400 converter in the "german craigslist", will this be a good choice?
thank you for your recommendations!
greetings from Austria
I found a shortly used, but close to new B&M 20400 converter in the "german craigslist", will this be a good choice?
thank you for your recommendations!
greetings from Austria
#11
As long as your sure it came from a good transmission, that’s probably a good choice. It should have a little more stall speed than a factory converter
Just keep in mind, whatever is inside the converter will be pumped into Your transmission. If it’s full of debris from a damaged trans, your transmission probably won’t last long.
Just keep in mind, whatever is inside the converter will be pumped into Your transmission. If it’s full of debris from a damaged trans, your transmission probably won’t last long.
#12
Good day,
Ya I'm with Matt.
To step over a dollar to save a dime isn't worth it to me.
Too many unknowns about that kind of used part. It's not like you can open it up to examine it.
A new part will be warrantied and give you peace of mind.
A converter can be considered a safety item IMO.
Ya I'm with Matt.
To step over a dollar to save a dime isn't worth it to me.
Too many unknowns about that kind of used part. It's not like you can open it up to examine it.
A new part will be warrantied and give you peace of mind.
A converter can be considered a safety item IMO.
#13
With your combo it will help a bit but not much, definitely you wont feel it..I would spend the money on a decent street cam shaft first.. going from 1600 stall to 2000 is nothing at all. Street cam ,gears then your stall, 2500 minimum. And when you get a converter, don’t cheap out, get a good one..cost you around 400.00 but remember you have to remove trans to replace @ shitty one..do it once, do it right if possible..😊
Last edited by Andy; May 12th, 2020 at 05:13 PM.
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