Our Toys and the Economy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old January 2nd, 2009, 02:53 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Mint79Supreme's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mickleton NJ
Posts: 5
Our Toys and the Economy

Does the economy have being so bad have any effect on keeping your toys. I know if things don't start getting better soon one of the first things to go will be my 79 Cutlass. Being retired doesn't leave a lot of wiggle room when the stock market is so bad and prices are running away. Downsizing the motorhome would be second as the wife likes that.
Mint79Supreme is offline  
Old January 2nd, 2009, 04:00 PM
  #2  
Moderator
 
Olds64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,954
Since I bought my Oldsmobiles with cash I don't have to worry about "making the payments" on my project cars. I am currently trying to sell my 64 98 but that is due to the fact that I want to have one project at a time.
Olds64 is offline  
Old January 2nd, 2009, 04:50 PM
  #3  
Oldsdruid
 
rocketraider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southside Vajenya
Posts: 10,301
Well- they're all paid for, they take little in the way of upkeep, and they're cheap to insure. Paying for their new digs isn't a real chore, and since it's a permanent structure I have to pay for that whether any cars live in it or not.

I am considering a refi on the home equity loan I took out to build it. I locked at a fairly good rate for the time I borrowed the money, but I wonder can I do better. I had to do something to get a tax break.
rocketraider is offline  
Old January 2nd, 2009, 05:42 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
Redog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Far Northeast Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 3,145
I'm sorta OK.

We just had a baby. Things would have been a lot tighter if I didn't total the Delta, but the sad thing is, that car was set for a few years, maybe about 3 or 4 weeks before the accdient

Still looking around at other Olds. Either a Delta or Cutlass in around the same year, but I do have 1 loan and might be buying a minivan soon, IDK.
Redog is offline  
Old January 2nd, 2009, 07:27 PM
  #5  
Registered User
 
hamm36's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Dallas
Posts: 651
I dam near starved during the Clinton administration. Selling my Cutlass never crossed my mine. Now, I make 2x my best job in the past ever paid. Car is being totally redone. Down economy ?? Spending more then you bring in will shut down any economy, now we know?
"debtor is a slave to the lender."
hamm36 is offline  
Old January 2nd, 2009, 08:15 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
dan2286's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: North Ridgeville, Ohio
Posts: 422
Since I dont make payments on mine and it only takes money when I have it, it will never get sold because I am broke. I put to much damn work into the car to not be able to enjoy it.

I just look at it this way. I most likely wont be broke for ever, I will just deal with it. If I sell my car just to temporarily make my life easier, I will most likely regret it when I am not going through hard times.
dan2286 is offline  
Old January 2nd, 2009, 09:29 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
Dapapadon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Gladstone, OR
Posts: 491
I tell my friends my kids can sell my cars when I die. Short of that I'm keeping them.

Don
Dapapadon is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 12:10 AM
  #8  
Registered User
 
projectheaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: San Francisco bay area
Posts: 330
Dan2286 you took the words right out of my mouth.
projectheaven is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 12:25 AM
  #9  
Registered User
 
red rocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Southern NJ
Posts: 14
I would eat rice and beans before I parted with the Red Rocket! Besides gas is $1.39 in NJ now so no matter how much the 455 sucks down I can scrape together some gas money to get 'er goin!
red rocket is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 04:47 AM
  #10  
Moderator
 
Olds64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,954
Besides gas is $1.39 in NJ now
Gas was $1.37 in OK a few weeks ago. They decided to bump it up to $1.59. I hope we can continue to enjoy these cheap gas prices.
Olds64 is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 05:36 AM
  #11  
Old(s) Fart
 
joe_padavano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 47,377
Originally Posted by dan2286
Since I dont make payments on mine and it only takes money when I have it, it will never get sold because I am broke. I put to much damn work into the car to not be able to enjoy it.
Amen. That's the beauty of an old car. So long as it isn't your primary transportation, it can sit until money (or in my case time) is available. My wife's expensive hobby is horses and unfortunately you need to feed them, care for them, and deal with "emissions" whether you ride them or not.
joe_padavano is online now  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 06:15 AM
  #12  
Registered User
 
marinus_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Grassie Ontario Canada
Posts: 253
Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Amen. That's the beauty of an old car. So long as it isn't your primary transportation, it can sit until money (or in my case time) is available. My wife's expensive hobby is horses and unfortunately you need to feed them, care for them, and deal with "emissions" whether you ride them or not.
After we bought our first house, money was pretty scarce. I stored my Hurst / Olds at the time in my sisters barn so my wife wouldn't see it and keep on reminding me that I should sell it.

Out of sight and out of mind.

I was ready to sell it last summer after I bought my 64 Starfire but if I can't get a decent dollar for it then It would only be a waste of money to sell it. After all, it has been bought and paid for over 18 years now and doesn't owe me a dime.
If I sell it then I am sure that the money will get spent on something stupid like 'the kids education' (just kidding)
marinus_ is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 06:35 AM
  #13  
Toro68
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
My Dad had to see his 63 Starfire, becasue of this ecomony
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3032621
 
Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:20 AM
  #14  
Registered User
 
68conv455's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 634
Don't sell your cars! Life is too short not to enjoy a reasonably priced hobby. I've had my cutlass for 4.5 years and have yet to drive it as I'm still restoring. I walk past it everyday coming in and out of the house. Sometimes I pause to look at it and a happy feeling comes over me.
When my wife gives me a hard time about it, I remind her how fortunate she is that I'm not into boats or airplanes.
In my case, I'm trying hard to put a little extra cash aside. I'll be ready to pounce when someone else feels the pinch of the economy and sells their beautiful car at panic pricing.
68conv455 is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:41 AM
  #15  
Moderator
 
2blu442's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Medford, Oregon
Posts: 13,700
Hard times come and go, hopefully this one is on it's way out. I agree with the others that my old cars are paid for. I also have spare parts and know how to work on them. It's a personal choice but if you can keep your hobby alive through the tough times, even if you don't spend much money on it that can give you something to enjoy when your dealing with unpleasant things around you. If you decide you have to sell the car as Chad (csstrux) recently did, stay involved here. You can keep the interest alive and buy another one when things get better. My 2 cents. John
2blu442 is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:46 AM
  #16  
Registered User
 
marinus_'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Grassie Ontario Canada
Posts: 253
Originally Posted by 68conv455
Don't sell your cars! Life is too short not to enjoy a reasonably priced hobby. I've had my cutlass for 4.5 years and have yet to drive it as I'm still restoring. I walk past it everyday coming in and out of the house. Sometimes I pause to look at it and a happy feeling comes over me.
When my wife gives me a hard time about it, I remind her how fortunate she is that I'm not into boats or airplanes.
In my case, I'm trying hard to put a little extra cash aside. I'll be ready to pounce when someone else feels the pinch of the economy and sells their beautiful car at panic pricing.
I know a lot of guys who spend more money on golfing in a year than I spend on my cars. On a nice day in the summer I can take the whole family for a ride and the kids just love going for a ride in "daddy's old car".
marinus_ is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 08:15 AM
  #17  
car guy
 
gearheads78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 5,659
Cars are to be sold only for the following reasons
-to buy another car
-to buy tools / equipment to work on cars
-to buy land to store cars
-to buy/build garage so you have a place to work on cars
-to buy trailer to go get more cars

That about sums it up for me
gearheads78 is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 08:49 AM
  #18  
Registered User
 
gearhead1218's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Palmyra, NY
Posts: 227
Sure, money is tighter now than in the past. But everytime we spend a little on our rides, we're only helping the economy. Yes, a hendred dollars alone won't help the economy, but if everyone here spent a hundred dollars to the same company, just think how great that company would be doing. Plus that company has to get the parts from somewhere as well, so then we get the trickle down effect.
I just ordered $900 worth of fuel system parts from Jegs last night (don't tell the wife), so I'm trying to do my part.

As a whole, I don't drive my cars enough where I worry about the gas prices at all. My Cougar gets decent mileage, and runs fine on the cheap stuff. The Olds is a different story though. 93 octane minimum plus booster, or 103 race gas at $6 plus a gallon and single digit economy does hurt, but the fun & pucker factor does counteract that.
I guess there are worse thing to blow our hard-earned money on. Drinking, drugs, or gambling doesn't give you the same feeling as a group of cheering, squeeling little kids as you light-em-up in front of them.
gearhead1218 is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 12:14 PM
  #19  
Registered User
 
citcapp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Rathdrum, Idano
Posts: 9,127
When you pry the keys from my cold dead fingers, you may pass my cars to the next person to enjoy. Working on them gives me pleasure even though I cuss a lot when I bust my knuckles. The hobby keeps me out of bars (Drinking beer in the garage with friends while talking or working on cars is more fun anyway. Its even fun hunting down hard to find parts and using this site. Talking to other Olds people just adds to the general fun of the fix/restore/go fast hobby.
citcapp is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 01:15 PM
  #20  
Registered User
 
oldcardoc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Brevard, NC
Posts: 51
My classic car is great therapy (not to mention pleasure and enjoyment) and a better investment than the stock market
oldcardoc is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 01:49 PM
  #21  
Past Administrator
 
Oldsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Rural Waxahachie Texas
Posts: 10,025
I Love my hobby and Love my cars. My best friend buys new cars for his daily drivers, I buy slightly used ones for my daily driver. I buy my Oldsmobiles for fun and will not sell them unless they are a threat to my wife's well being, she is the everything to me and they would go first. But that notwithstanding, they are staying in the garage/driveway. I can't wait until spring to un-cover the project and start working on it again.
Oldsguy is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 07:21 PM
  #22  
Registered User
 
gearhead1218's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Palmyra, NY
Posts: 227
Originally Posted by Oldsguy
I Love my hobby and Love my cars. My best friend buys new cars for his daily drivers, I buy slightly used ones for my daily driver. I buy my Oldsmobiles for fun and will not sell them unless they are a threat to my wife's well being, she is the everything to me and they would go first. But that notwithstanding, they are staying in the garage/driveway. I can't wait until spring to un-cover the project and start working on it again.
What's the matter with you Dan???
Your wife is more important than the cars, what gives?????
gearhead1218 is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 08:37 PM
  #23  
Registered User
 
daves62's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Nampa Idaho
Posts: 223
[quote=dan2286;56728]Since I dont make payments on mine and it only takes money when I have it, it will never get sold because I am broke.


x2
daves62 is offline  
Old January 3rd, 2009, 11:53 PM
  #24  
Registered User
 
442much's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sherwood Park, Alberta
Posts: 2,623
My 442 was paid for in 1981. If cash is low she can sit in the garage. Insurance is $150 a year for full coverage and the antique plates is a one time $35 charge(which I'm finally going to get) to have it permanently registered. Besides, the global economy hasn't hit us yet. House prices are expected to go up 3% (which is a far cry form the 35% per year for the last couple of years) and there is no major layoffs...yet. But we know it's coming...
442much is offline  
Old January 4th, 2009, 07:22 AM
  #25  
Moderator
 
Olds64's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Edmond, OK
Posts: 15,954
But we know it's coming...
Man, I thought I was a pessimist.
Olds64 is offline  
Old January 4th, 2009, 07:39 AM
  #26  
Senior Moment Member
 
z11375ss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,870
I agree with oldcardoc. My Olds is therapy. Taking it out and banging gears ALWAYS puts a smile on my face. Put a price on that! Since it's paid for there is no reason to get rid of it. Besides who's buying now anyway?
z11375ss is offline  
Old January 4th, 2009, 04:35 PM
  #27  
Registered User
 
Chumley's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 511
Regarding Oldcardoc, did you have a W-32 car as well as an SX? As I understand it , SX's were ther Y-79 option, or am I learning something new? I sold my '70 SX also over 30 years ago. Ah, regrets...... Chumley
Chumley is offline  
Old January 5th, 2009, 05:10 AM
  #28  
Registered User
 
Lady72nRob71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Plano, TX
Posts: 11,798
The worse this economy gets, the happier i am to put money into my cars...
For my 2 Olds, investing in them is WAY better than our current crappy stock market! I know I can get all that back (and more!) should I sell them later (if I can ever think of a real reason...)
Putting maintanence $ into the 2 daily drivers is fine, as I never plan to buy a new car, and never will if the big 3 go under. I will die before i buy foreign...
And being single means i can do what I please and continue investing in real American iron!
And as mentioned already, this is therapy for me (despite loosing half a fingertip last night ) and keeps me out of trouble and out of the bars...

Last edited by Lady72nRob71; January 5th, 2009 at 05:12 AM.
Lady72nRob71 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
cutlassjoe
The Clubhouse
43
June 13th, 2012 08:17 AM
Allan R
General Discussion
8
September 18th, 2011 06:40 PM
mauls
The Clubhouse
7
May 21st, 2011 10:05 PM
TripDeuces
General Discussion
3
July 16th, 2010 08:22 AM
Huron
Small Blocks
1
July 9th, 2007 11:56 AM



Quick Reply: Our Toys and the Economy



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:17 AM.