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Old September 26th, 2013, 06:44 AM
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1955 Super 88 Build Thread

Hi everyone. I will try to keep my build contained in this one thread.

A few weeks ago i bought a 55 olds super 88 with a 324. The last few weeks i have cleaned up the outside and started cleaning the inside. Old cars tell a story, and this one is no different.

The previous owner bought it in 2011. When he drove it off the trailer, he parked it in his yard. The next morning, he couldn't get the car into gear. He said he "tried everything" but he had to pull the driveshaft to move the car. More on the transmission later.

Before this owner, the previous owner had it in a barn for an unknown amount of time. The barn smell in this thing knocks you down! I have pulled the back seat, what was left of the carpet, and vacuumed everything out.

I found a few vintage sticks of "Beemans" gum and a Pepsi bottle cap with a cork backing, indicating that it has not been vacuumed since those days. I'm guessing the 70's, as i am 37 and never remember having seen a cork bottle cap on pepsi in the 80's.

I was looking at napa.com for tune up items and a carb kit. Others have noted that my super 88 should have had a 4v carb but i have a 2v. I pulled the carb tag and found it is 7009300--the 2v carb from 1956. This spurred my interest, so i did some more digging and found the intake starts with 56####, the distributor has a points window, the heads are stamped "10" and the block serial number all point to it having had a motor swap to a '56!

From what i read, it seems that the '56 rocket 324 was the sweet spot...higher compression, higher horsepower, and bigger exhaust valves. nice little bonus for me!

When i fired the car, it sounded like open headers. When i looked, sure enough, the crossover pipe and the down pipe are not just rusted...they are rotted away! I'm going to need to fab something up after i do a tune up to get it to an exhaust shop.

Interior wise, i plan to do a complete makeover. The seats, carpet, package tray, and trunk linings are completely gone due to the barnyard animals that called this car home. Additionally, i bought this car to make it a daily driver/family cruiser with an emphasis on safety and luxury. I bought a roll of beige modern car carpet as well as a set of silverado/cadillac/gmc seats that are power, heated leather with integrated seat belts. I plan to dye them and go for a light beige lexus-inspired interior.

I will post up here as i find new and interesting things.


As i bought the car in a field:











After dragging it home and cleaning it up a bit:














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So when i offered to buy the car from the previous owner, i asked him all about the transmission. He said it was bad, wouldn't get out of park, and that he checked the fluids and tried everything.

When i got to his house, i found that the car was pretty far away from any shelter. When i asked him in person more about the transmission, he said he still had not had a chance to take it to his buddy's house to jack it up and look. Turns out, the guy had a bunch of cars but no garage or even any concrete to jack the car up!

So when i got the car home, i sat in the driveway in the car. I found that it was REALLY difficult to move the shifter up and down and that it didn't go into any indents. it just slid up and down. I figured the linkages were screwed up. I worked the shifter up and down about 10 times gently and finally it gave and effortlessly moved through all of the indents from N - Dr - S - L - R ! it was smooth and positive. I'm HOPING that a stuck shifter linkage was all that was wrong with it. Yeah, that would be some amazing luck!

Here is my plan:

--Tuneup with a carb rebuild, plugs, wires, cap, rotor, points, condenser
--change antifreeze, oil, power steering fluid reservoir
--Fab up a temporary exhaust
--New U Joint (driveshaft is out anyway)
--drain the trans and the torus
--fill the trans and torus with temporary fluid, start the car, let it run in N for a few minutes, then check the fluid level and make sure it is up to the correct level
--put it in DR and let it run a few minutes, then a few minutes in each range.


It will take me a few weeks to get this done. We shall see if that does the trick!
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Interior wise, my inspiration will be to build something like this:









I'm not delusional enough to think that i will EVER get to this level of fit and finish (the owner of this car spent $16,000 on the interior) but the overall color and feel is the direction i want to go.



Here are the seats and carpet i picked up. I plan to use that rear seat as it dimensionally seems to fit PERFECTLY in the back of that car...as if it were made to go in there! A neat feature is that the rear seat folds up flat. That will be handy when i need to haul a lot of stuff in the back!


The seats cost me $250 and the entire roll of carpet was $20! I love the charlotte autofair!





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Ben, that is definitely a cool car! I'm sure it will be a fun project. FWIW, I like those wheels that are on it.

BTW, your thread doesn't have to be moved. It's fine in the 88 forum.
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Hey thanks! I was going to swap them out, but the more i see it in person, the better i like those old wheels! the challenge now is finding tires to fit. I found a whopping 4 choices out there
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Cool project. I would suggest it to get moved to the builds and projects section and will get a bigger following. I can move it if you want me too. Just send me a PM
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Very nice car Ben! Looks like she really cleaned up nice and is a real solid starting point for a resto. Hope the shifter linkage is all that's wrong with the trans.
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Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
Very nice car Ben! Looks like she really cleaned up nice and is a real solid starting point for a resto. Hope the shifter linkage is all that's wrong with the trans.
I looked at the trans dipstick...it is bone dry. I bet it will be good to go after a little tranny juice....
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Originally Posted by gearheads78
Cool project. I would suggest it to get moved to the builds and projects section and will get a bigger following. I can move it if you want me too. Just send me a PM
Thanks guys. It doesn't matter to me, I just wanted to make sure and follow the forum rules. :-)
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I moved the thread. Like Richard mentioned, hopefully more people follow it in the Build and Projects forum. BTW Ben, thanks for all of the detailed photos. Everyone likes photos of Oldsmobiles.
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Love the story and the pictures keep it going there is always something to learn on these threads....Tedd
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If You're Looking For The Original Replacement Material ,I Think SMS Auto Upholstery Has The Material and They Will Send You Samples. Don't Know How Expensive It Will Be,Thank Goodness, My Original Is Still Plenty Good To Keep Me From Finding Out. I Think My Upholstery Is The Same Pattern As Yours,But Green. Larry
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Ben,

Here is some of the info. I have an Olds Maintenance manual, and took some pictures of the first couple of pages. It will help decode your data plate.

However, it does not address the interior trim code. Sorry, I thought I had that. It does however give paint codes. That may help a bit.









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That is perfect! I JUST got my own Shop Manual on CD and found that! You are right, the paint codes are helpful.

I am going to look at your pictures and try to find something that is close.

As a side note, can you please look at page 13-46 (the wiring diagram)? Please tell me if it is in color or in black and white? Mine is in black and white and it does not have wire colors listed
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Originally Posted by DFitz
Ben,

Here is some of the info. I have an Olds Maintenance manual, and took some pictures of the first couple of pages. It will help decode your data plate.

However, it does not address the interior trim code. Sorry, I thought I had that. It does however give paint codes. That may help a bit.









Does anyone know how that "BODY NUMBER" on the cowl tag ties to the VIN on the door jamb?

According to the shop manual info, there are 10 prefixes for body numbers for manufacture locations, but only 8 for VIN number assembly plant codes.

Could a Kansas City Bodied car (i.e. "BK") be assembled in Lansing?
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Nice Olds, we are still in the process of building a 1955 88. quick question, did the rear seat fit and if so what was it out of?
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Originally Posted by BenJammin
As a side note, can you please look at page 13-46 (the wiring diagram)? Please tell me if it is in color or in black and white? Mine is in black and white and it does not have wire colors listed
Ben,

Sorry, that page is B&W in my manual too.
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Originally Posted by Olds Dad
Does anyone know how that "BODY NUMBER" on the cowl tag ties to the VIN on the door jamb?

According to the shop manual info, there are 10 prefixes for body numbers for manufacture locations, but only 8 for VIN number assembly plant codes.

Could a Kansas City Bodied car (i.e. "BK") be assembled in Lansing?
I don't think so. My body number corresponds with the VIN number and location, in my case Kansas City. If yours were different locations, I'd be surprised. But I've been wrong before. Unless bodies were made somewhere else, and shipped to assembly plants? Maybe transplanted VIN or cowl tag?
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Originally Posted by DFitz
Ben,

Sorry, that page is B&W in my manual too.
ok, so maybe i'm an idiot, but how do i use a wiring diagram without colors?
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Originally Posted by DFitz
I don't think so. My body number corresponds with the VIN number and location, in my case Kansas City. If yours were different locations, I'd be surprised. But I've been wrong before. Unless bodies were made somewhere else, and shipped to assembly plants? Maybe transplanted VIN or cowl tag?
I agree, but look at the pages in the manual...there are 10 body codes and 8 assembly plants -
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ok, so maybe i'm an idiot, but how do i use a wiring diagram without colors?
The originals are in color - the ebay CD's are B&W copies
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Oh Joy! Anybody have a scanner with a color version?
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Nice Olds, we are still in the process of building a 1955 88. quick question, did the rear seat fit and if so what was it out of?
I measured it and it looks right. I'll go try it tonight and send a picture.

The seats are out of a fullsize chevy/gmc/cadillac truck with extended cab. Somewhere around 2006
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Originally Posted by BenJammin
That is perfect! I JUST got my own Shop Manual on CD and found that! You are right, the paint codes are helpful.

I am going to look at your pictures and try to find something that is close.

As a side note, can you please look at page 13-46 (the wiring diagram)? Please tell me if it is in color or in black and white? Mine is in black and white and it does not have wire colors listed
I looked at my paper manual and it is also is in black and white. Somewhere in my junk I have seen a print out with the wire colors labeled if I find it I'll post it.....Tedd
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Go to Fig. 16-32 through 16-40 in your manual( back pages) and and maybe this will give you a clue on some of the wiring colors....Tedd
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Yeah, i think the wiring in this car is simple enough for me to figure it out. I plan to replace it all anyway. Some of the wiring i can see is pretty frayed
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