442NDTSS

Hello, I just bought new seat covers and am trying to take out the rear seats. I see that the bottom of the seat is hooked in to the floor itself. Whats the easiest way to get the whole seat out? Do i ttake the back of the seat out first?

Thanks

RAMBOW

Push down on the lower cushion and at the same time push it straight back- it should then pop up, then you can pull it up. Sometimes you have to do this process on each side since there are two hooks on the floor holding it.

THe upper cushion is attached at the bottom (behind the lower cushions rear edge) by two bolts, once those are out, you then push it straght up and it will come off. THere are three hooks below the package tray that hold it on.

Hope this helps.

442NDTSS

Thanks Ben,

I will give that a try.

Thanks,

Rafe

Macadoo

I, myself, couldn't get my seat out using brute force. So I thought I'd share this. Hope it helps.

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...moval-tip.html

442NDTSS

Mac,

now that looks like a plan. Thanks, i will try that here once it starts raining.

Thanks again

Olds442redberet

Let us know how it works out.

I usually pull the front seat out so as to have more room to work and use two valve lifters and some PB Blaster. I spray the contact points under the seat where the seat spring hooks in. Then I push directly on the seat spring where it hooks in while lifting up in the spring with the other valve lifter.

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z11375ss

So you can't get the back seat out. Very easy. But, you are going to recover it? Very difficult! I did this same thing with my buckets. Got them out, started in with the hog ring plyers, and sent them to the Interior shop. You got ***** man, or some mad upholstery skills! Good luck!

Macadoo

Amen to that, z11. I just finished recovering my front bench with arm rest. Never again......NEVER AGAIN.

Fun71

I didn't find recovering the seats to be difficult at all. The front buckets took an afternoon each and the rear bench was much, much easier. I did both pieces in an afternoon.

z11375ss

Did you restuff them? Nice ride.

Macadoo

Well, I wasn't chucking tools at the wall and spewing a string of obscenities but it took me from 9 AM to about 7 PM yesterday (with an hour for lunch) just to do the bench. Maybe I have the wrong hog-ring pliers because I finally resorted to threading the rings through by hand and closing them with needle-nose.
And I'm sure adding the extra foam made it more difficult as well.
Glad yours weren't so hard to do, Ken.

z11375ss

Nice Mac. Way to stick with it.

Macadoo

Thanks Z, the obsession has its upside I like your new sig pic, btw.

Ken, I realized our difference. A front bench is way different than a rear. It has a hump that holds the seat backs. There's a list with a wire inside that has to be pulled down into the crevice and hog ringed. And then the carpet stretches over the back and down under and hog ringed, and of course the front down and under the front and hog ringed. Not to mention all the hardware that has to be reinstalled. I've read here on CO that the front bench with armrest is the most difficult. And I would have to agree. I'm glad I did it but I would have to think twice before doing it again.

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TSS, do you have buckets or bench in front?

Fun71

Yeah, after I posted I started thinking I should have said that I wouldn't attempt to do a front bench with an armrest. You had a much tougher job than I did!

Macadoo

No problem, Ken. It was tough but I'm used to that. I just felt kinda' bad taking up the wife's day off.

Macadoo

442NDTSS, got an update for us?

wcourt3010

i did my rear seats myself, left the split front bench seat to the professionals. i found a load of mouse poop in the top cushion, replaced all the foam with car foam i got from a fabric store. I'm happy with my result and the money i saved. give it a try, its not hard. just follow the instructions and watch some videos on youtube before hand.

davoaz

A little late. But here's what I do. My old chevelle I'd reach down and push hard to pop them out but the cutlass, not happening. I figured out if I sit on the back seat floor, feet handing outside of door. I can lean firmly into the seat with my shoulder at same time push up with my elbow and it pops right out. I think I had that seat out 4 times in the last month, fixing top cylinders, speakers and refilling pump reservoir.

442NDTSS

Hello Everyone,
so i used Macadoos link that showed the use of 2x4s, wow, it literally took me 30 seconds to get that lower section removed, thanks Macadoo. I unbolted the bottom part of the upper seat but still cant figure out how the top half of the upper seat is hooked. i tried just pushing vertically up but that didnt work and i dont want to bend anything. anyone have any ideas? Btw, thanks everyone for their input. I appreciate having this community available. also, i did find a 1972 quarter under the seat...i will just think that it has been there for 40 years, keeping it in the ash tray as good luck.

Thanks

Rafe

Macadoo

Glad it worked for ya
The back seat has two bolt on either side of the bottom (which you got) and [I believe] three hooks along the top, one on each side and one in the middle. The hooks have a small protrusion so you have to kind of push in on the top as you push up. Sometimes it's easy, sometimes not. Keep at it, you'll get it.

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Fun71

I have absolutely no idea what that picture is supposed to show.

oldsguybry

There are two bolts holding the upper portion of the seat down ( rear seat ). You have to remove the lower part first revealing the two bolts . Once you get the two bolts off , the seat pushes upward and comes off ..... I'm assuming it would be the same on most of these cars .

Macadoo

Lol, yeah, that was pretty bad, sorry. Maybe this will help?

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Correct. But if you look at the photo, the three upper hooks have a small protrusion towards the back wall necessitating the need to push the top of the seat back a little (sometimes) while lifting up.

442NDTSS

Hello All,

to report in, i finally got the upper part of the rear seat out of the car. it took me using my legs to push the upper part of the seat, where they attach to the protruding hooks, inward as my wife pulled up on the seat.

I installed the new seat covers myself and they look great. took me a total of about 4 hours. The question now i have is the old seat covers have a thin narrow rod , 1 in each section, do i need to reuse those? I did not but since i havent put the seats back in the car, i can do it a little easier. I almost threw the old seats away when i noticed that they wouldnt fold easy.

Thanks everyone

Macadoo

I haven't done my backs yet, just my fronts, but I believe those are necessary. I can't remember the terminology but the seat covers should have long cylindrical tubes of fabric those slide in. Then you hog-ring around those. I doubt the fabric alone will hold the hog-rings.

MDchanic

YES.

- Eric

Macadoo

Here's a pic of my front seat-back metal rod and the old, beat-up fabric channel I pulled it from.

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442NDTSS

thanks guys.

I agree, i should reuse those. Funny thing, i just youtube'ed a video of a guy redoing his back seats on a 69 buick skylark, and he did not mention reusing them and he actually showed how he put the hog clips on that particular section just like I did, behind the sewed seam, but it only makes sense to reuse the rods. It shouldnt take me long to undo that one section and add the rods.

Thanks again everyone.

Macadoo

The rears are that easy, eh? My front bench with armrest was a bear. Good to know I don't have to go through that again when doing the backs. Did it yourself or did you need helpers?

442NDTSS

Mac,

i have never done anything like this in the past and i would probably never do again because its cheap to have them done. The shop near me was going to charge 120 dollars if I brought him the back seat. I am definitely having someone do the front 50 50 split bench. It took me about 4 hours to do the recovering on the back seat but again never have done it before so i would say it was alot easier than i thought it would be. So if you already did your fronts yourself, the backs will be a walk in the park.

BTW, so i put the rods back in last night..took me about 2 hours as i had to undo the hog rings and then redo just those 2 sections. at the same time i put in a new package tray...wow, what a difference new seat covers and package tray make.

thanks again
Rafe

Macadoo

Yeah, but that's $120 we can spend on other parts
When the time comes, I'll do them myself, if for nothing else, I like the bragging rights.
Nothing like a new package tray, right? And it's not too hard to do either.