How many 67 4 speeds Built
September 27th, 2012, 06:50 PM
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How many 67 4 speeds Built
Anyone know how many 67 442 4 speed cars were built. I know Olds didnt keep records but a rough estimate would be good as well. If someone has any real Idea please let me know
September 28th, 2012, 05:20 AM
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Not exactly. More accurately, Olds did have and keep records for a number of years. And like most companies, the eventually disposed of them. The production numbers that Ed cites (specifically the 442 production broken down by year, model, and transmission, were culled from the records by Helen Early, presumably at the request of enthusiasts, when the records were still available. These particular figures were kept, even though the raw data they came from is now gone.
I also have obtained some production reports for a few years that are breakdowns of options by *series* (not individual models) by month. As valuable as this is, it still does not yield production for *combinations* of options. One of the years of these reports is 1967, and since the 442 and transmissions are both options, you can't get the info you requested from this report.
September 28th, 2012, 11:03 AM
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Quite correct!
Not exactly. More accurately, Olds did have and keep records for a number of years. And like most companies, the eventually disposed of them. The production numbers that Ed cites (specifically the 442 production broken down by year, model, and transmission, were culled from the records by Helen Early, presumably at the request of enthusiasts, when the records were still available. These particular figures were kept, even though the raw data they came from is now gone.
I also have obtained some production reports for a few years that are breakdowns of options by *series* (not individual models) by month. As valuable as this is, it still does not yield production for *combinations* of options. One of the years of these reports is 1967, and since the 442 and transmissions are both options, you can't get the info you requested from this report.
Not exactly. More accurately, Olds did have and keep records for a number of years. And like most companies, the eventually disposed of them. The production numbers that Ed cites (specifically the 442 production broken down by year, model, and transmission, were culled from the records by Helen Early, presumably at the request of enthusiasts, when the records were still available. These particular figures were kept, even though the raw data they came from is now gone.
I also have obtained some production reports for a few years that are breakdowns of options by *series* (not individual models) by month. As valuable as this is, it still does not yield production for *combinations* of options. One of the years of these reports is 1967, and since the 442 and transmissions are both options, you can't get the info you requested from this report.
I got the numbers I posted from a fact book I bought several years ago called "Oldsmobile 4-4-2 & W-Machines Restoration Guide".
It's far from a "restoration guide", but, the numbers seem to go along with other fact sources I've compared it to.
September 28th, 2012, 11:31 AM
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It was my understanding that most of the Olds records of the detailed history of individual cars as well as other Olds historical data, were destroyed in a fire.
I got the numbers I posted from a fact book I bought several years ago called "Oldsmobile 4-4-2 & W-Machines Restoration Guide".
It's far from a "restoration guide", but, the numbers seem to go along with other fact sources I've compared it to.
I got the numbers I posted from a fact book I bought several years ago called "Oldsmobile 4-4-2 & W-Machines Restoration Guide".
It's far from a "restoration guide", but, the numbers seem to go along with other fact sources I've compared it to.
The figures in that restoration guide are correct with some minor exception. That book is a good effort, but has quite a few errors, so caution is advised using it.
October 16th, 2013, 01:17 PM
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Quite correct!
Not exactly. More accurately, Olds did have and keep records for a number of years. And like most companies, the eventually disposed of them. The production numbers that Ed cites (specifically the 442 production broken down by year, model, and transmission, were culled from the records by Helen Early, presumably at the request of enthusiasts, when the records were still available. These particular figures were kept, even though the raw data they came from is now gone.
I also have obtained some production reports for a few years that are breakdowns of options by *series* (not individual models) by month. As valuable as this is, it still does not yield production for *combinations* of options. One of the years of these reports is 1967, and since the 442 and transmissions are both options, you can't get the info you requested from this report.
Not exactly. More accurately, Olds did have and keep records for a number of years. And like most companies, the eventually disposed of them. The production numbers that Ed cites (specifically the 442 production broken down by year, model, and transmission, were culled from the records by Helen Early, presumably at the request of enthusiasts, when the records were still available. These particular figures were kept, even though the raw data they came from is now gone.
I also have obtained some production reports for a few years that are breakdowns of options by *series* (not individual models) by month. As valuable as this is, it still does not yield production for *combinations* of options. One of the years of these reports is 1967, and since the 442 and transmissions are both options, you can't get the info you requested from this report.
October 19th, 2013, 01:14 PM
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49 3400 series
187 3600 series
6434 3800 series, this includes 442s.
So about 3.9% of the models that had this as an option got it.
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