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Old September 23rd, 2021, 03:43 PM
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66 442 $52k

(Not Mine) Came across this today.

https://www.streetsideclassics.com/vehicles/5792-cha/1966-oldsmobile-442

Looks good, tri-carb setup, 4spd. Says non-numbers matching engine although period correct. Says trans is numbers matching. Were trans matched to cars back in 66?

$52k too much?
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Old September 23rd, 2021, 04:07 PM
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Nice car but not worth 52K.
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Old September 23rd, 2021, 06:53 PM
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Seems a little rich to me. Hard car to prove authenticity. It's at a car dealer so I am sure they can be trusted.
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Old September 23rd, 2021, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
Seems a little rich to me. Hard car to prove authenticity. It's at a car dealer so I am sure they can be trusted.
What do you mean by hard to prove authenticity? If it has 5V on the tag and the tri carb was available over the counter,that's about as real as it gets,
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Seems honestly presented. They make no claim that it left the factory as an L-69 (or even a 4-4-2 for that matter, although the firewall tag would seem to lock this in) or any other hyperbolae. The paint color change is even pointed out -- for those who can't or won't read the data tag. And it looks to be very well done. Very clean.

I've seen worse deals for $52K.

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Originally Posted by '69442ragtop
Seems honestly presented. They make no claims that it left the factory as an L-69 (or even a 4-4-2 for that matter, although the firewall tag would seem to lock this in) or any other hyperbolic claims The paint color change is even pointed out -- for those who can't or won't read the data tag. And it looks to be very well done. Very clean.

I've seen worse deals for $52K.
I agree. It seems well done compared to a lot of cars you see them selling. I am not sure what it is really worth, but it is a very nice car.
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Looks to have well over that into the rebuild. The car looks very nice.

So M-M is Autumn Bronze. Resale red won out I guess. I prefer the factory color.





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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
So M-M is Autumn Bronze. Resale red won out I guess. I prefer the factory color.
Yeah, I've seen that color before. It's pretty nice.
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Looks pretty nice to me! I don’t think I could deal with the manual steering and brakes. Are the carbs and intake correct?
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Originally Posted by steedaq
Looks pretty nice to me! I don’t think I could deal with the manual steering and brakes. Are the carbs and intake correct?
Manual brakes are no big deal and the Armstrong steering'll save you a gym membership. The L-69 setup looks pretty legit to me, but I've never seen a real one up close, so there's that ...
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Nice car.. hey if you buy a 66 in decent shape its 20 plus easily, then you have the body done by someone and its easily 15-20k easily or more for a stripped to metal, rust fixed and sprayed body.. you haven’t touched the engine, suspension, under carriage, trans, rearend, or any other front end work, tires, wheels etc..the list goes on..just a tricarb set up with all components are minimum 4000 grand if you get a deal.. just the base car and body done your in over 40-45k . Real money to buy its probably at 46-49k. Seems like its not that bad.
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Honestly we all know if it is done Right you are at 70+ easy. My hesitance lately is I want proof. I want to see before during and after pictures. I am cool if you replaced this that and the other but be willing and honest enough to show it. That shouldn't be a question that can't be asked.

This car looks to be done very very well. I am not an expert so there are possibly things that I do not know. 52 would still surprise me. It would look great in it's original color. Nice nice car in red still.
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
What do you mean by hard to prove authenticity? If it has 5V on the tag and the tri carb was available over the counter,that's about as real as it gets,
Beyond his frame of reference.
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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A
Beyond his frame of reference.
Apparently mine too ... what do you mean by that?
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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A
Beyond his frame of reference.


Originally Posted by '69442ragtop
Apparently mine too ... what do you mean by that?
Marsha has issues and too much time. He knows how much smarter he is than me and has to talk smack. It's a personal issue. Not for me. Zero. Marsha trolls me and Has to comment to try and prove his genius. Weird life.

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Originally Posted by '69442ragtop
Apparently mine too ... what do you mean by that?
No1oldsfan wrote in post number five:
"Hard car to prove authenticity. It's at a car dealer so I am sure they can be trusted."

The concern written by no1oldsfan was eliminated in post number number six:
"What do you mean by hard to prove authenticity? If it has 5V on the tag and the tri carb was available over the counter,that's about as real as it gets,"

My point is that no1oldsfan lacks the knowledge to make the statement "Hard car to prove authenticity. It's at a car dealer so I am not sure they can be trusted." No1 oldsfan overstepped his scope of knowledge. In non diplomatic terms: no1oldsfan doesn't know what he's talking about.



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Dude you are a dick. Eat some chocolate ice cream. Curl your hair. Maybe put on your favorite jammies and your bunny slippers. You are making yourself look like a douche. I never claim to know all. I actually ask questions to help us all out. Knowledge is key. Why don't you man up and PM me instead of playing internet wussy. Oh wait I know why. Hit me up anytime. Your attitude against me is from Your crazy mind. Yours. Hit me up Brother. Tinkerbell blue. I will look for it.
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Oh, I see.
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I just have a question regarding the Lansing Body number 11720. Build date is 01-A. I own a 66 Cutlass convertible with a build date of 01-A but the body number is 225198. Anyone care to explain the how or why difference in the body numbers from the same plant. No big deal, just thought the numbers would be closer together.

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Wayne - I have no data or documentation to back this up & it's only a SWAG; but, perhaps the body number is specific/attendant to the Series & Body Type of the vehicle? Could the 11720 be attendant to the 4-4-2 Series & Body Type, while your 225198 is attendant to the Cutlass Series & Body Type?
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Norm, I don't have a clue. Hence the question.

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Its a true 442 as 66 3x2 said earlier..5v on body tag.. tricarb as ad says is added on as is the engine a later model 400. Not sure where there is any argument? True 442, added on tricarb JUST like you could do in 1966 over the counter..nothing mysterious here. Nobody claiming its a bona fide L69 car.
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Originally Posted by 35tac
Norm, I don't have a clue. Hence the question.

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The body # is for a particular body series. They built more hardtops than conv.,so the count would be different @ any point in production.
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Originally Posted by Andy
Its a true 442 as 66 3x2 said earlier..5v on body tag.. tricarb as ad says is added on as is the engine a later model 400. Not sure where there is any argument? True 442, added on tricarb JUST like you could do in 1966 over the counter..nothing mysterious here. Nobody claiming its a bona fide L69 car.
There are people who comment on posts just to hear themselves talk. I get really tired of hearing every car that doesn't have wallpaper is a clone or if it's sold by a dealer it's a clone. Anybody who has a car with wallpaper is damn lucky to have. All one can do is do their homework when buying a car to see if it meats the criteria or not if there's no wallpaper.
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
There are people who comment on posts just to hear themselves talk. I get really tired of hearing every car that doesn't have wallpaper is a clone or if it's sold by a dealer it's a clone. Anybody who has a car with wallpaper is damn lucky to have. All one can do is do their homework when buying a car to see if it meats the criteria or not if there's no wallpaper.
What is wallpaper?
Thanks in advance...
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
The body # is for a particular body series.
That makes perfect sense. Thanks for clarification. Personally, regardless of price - I love this car.
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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A
What is wallpaper?
Thanks in advance...
I think he means documentation.

You're welcome.
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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A
What is wallpaper?
Thanks in advance...

Documentation.
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So 5V identifies the car as a 442 right? Can you verify factory three carb cars?
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
The body # is for a particular body series. They built more hardtops than conv.,so the count would be different @ any point in production.
Thanks. Makes sense.
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
So 5V identifies the car as a 442 right? Can you verify factory three carb cars?
No, AFAIK L-69 status cannot be proven without "wallpaper".

There, did I do that right?
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
So 5V identifies the car as a 442 right? Can you verify factory three carb cars?
Not without wallpaper.
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One more question. Were all factory three carb cars W cars? Not dealer installed. Asking about factory built three carb cars.
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One more question. Were all factory three carb cars W cars? Not dealer installed. Asking about factory built three carb cars.
2129 factory tri carb cars with 54 W cars.
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nice car, you guys who think it's not worth 55k, buy a half way decent 66 442 and put a paint job and interior in and all the rest of chroming and polishing and all the odds and ends that has been done to that car and let me know what you have into it.
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Body number.

Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
The body # is for a particular body series. They built more hardtops than conv.,so the count would be different @ any point in production.
Makes sense I guess?

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