66-3X2 442

I guess you didn't understand my response,so I'll try it a different way. They start production on hardtops,they build 2000K,so the body # starts with 0001 and that makes it 2000 @ the end of production for that month. Then they build 200 convertibles with the body # 0001 and finish with 200 @ the end of production for the month. It keeps going that way all of the way through production. That's why the body # will be higher for the most produced model @ any point in production.

Andy

lmao…lol

35tac

Great, thats better. Easily understood.

Wayne

mister-twister

Also, as most 66 fans know, California built 442s won't have the 5v on the data plate. You'd have other tell tale signs for resale purposes.

66-3X2 442

Yes and it's sad that every Fremont built 442 is a clone because of no data on the tag. If you don't have wallpaper for a Fremont build 442,hard to convince some that it's not the real deal.

66-3X2 442

What you laffin @ stock boy?

Andy

You Pops, your wall paper lost its stick?. 😆

66-3X2 442

I lost my 'stick' a long time ago.

mister-twister

Any insight for documenting my Freemont 442 before restoring? I'm sure with original paint is the time to doc.

66-3X2 442

Without wallpaper all you can really do is document it as you go. There's some things like the fuel return line to the tank and the clip that holds the fuel line and return line on top of the frame in the rear. That special clip is only used on 442's with the two lines. That kind of things will help document the car.

mister-twister

Thanks! I also like the original front brake line around the m/m...

66-3X2 442

That's another 442 only deal and why they did that they only know.

no1oldsfan

I would take pictures and document everything that you can before disassembly.

Thanks for everyone for their input on these issues. That's how we all learn.

Koda

I'm not sure that every Fremont 442 is a clone, but most cloned 442's are Fremont cars because of that. The old adage of "you can't prove that it IS, but you can prove that it IS NOT" will often hold true. At that point, you keep an open, but skeptical mind and start checking things. Documentation can add a little premium to the price.

66-3X2 442

The every Fremont car is a clone statement was a joke. That just what you have to deal with when you try to sell a Fremont car,trust me.

no1oldsfan

Exactly why you take at least one million pictures before dis-assembly. Can't dispute original.

Koda

I do believe you, buddy.

mister-twister

Does anyone remember the "fully documented " l69, 4spd, A/C car about 10 years ago? Didn't think that combination was available, but there it was on a pristine window doc. The old adage, due diligence comes to mind for any car. This reminds me 30 y/o there were more Ls6's ss chevelle's on the road that were built. Pictures/originality are a plus.

BangScreech4-4-2

Yeah, I got reproduction window stickers for my car too, just for a laugh. Although I didn't include any options the car didn't actually come with.

mister-twister

Respectful to our hobby! Those are cool or at least, a conversation piece. I like seeing a plain Jane cutlass or a 442 for that matter.

66-3X2 442

If you're saying that a tri carb 4 speed with air was not an option,it was.

mister-twister

I should have mentioned it had 3:91s, which couldn't be had, but mostly my point was a document that old looked brand new. Was still a nice car though.

66-3X2 442

Yes,that's is correct. 3.55 was the lowest gear set available with A/C.

Rallye469

Are the frames different for a 66 442 vs. a 66 cutlass?
I know on 65 Fremont 442’s, one look at the frame says A LOT.
-peter

no1oldsfan

Please explain what you mean? I love learning.

Factoryhotrod

Mike. Glad you squashed at least some of the untruths that get thrown around on these forums on the 66 442’S.

Rallye469

On ‘65’s the 442 got a unique frame. There were extra holes where the upper control arm bolt to, it was a one piece rail right before it sweeps up to go over the rear axle and gussets up front where it tucks into the engine compartment. Also the had a frame designation stamp out past the driver side rear wheel. So if you’re trying to identify a Fremont 65 442, this is what you look for.

No idea about 66 & 67.
-peter

If you want to learn about 65’s, go here
http://www.442bro.com
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66-3X2 442

The straight shift 442's got the A.O. Smith frame and the automatic 442's/Cutlass's got the Pontiac frame..

mzack66442

Good to know - because my unrestored 66 Freemont 442 4-speed has the AO Smith frame! I also have the POP that matches the head thankfully.......