What brand do you guys recommend?
December 26th, 2016, 07:28 PM
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What brand do you guys recommend?
Hello everyone and happy holidays,
One of the discount auto stores nearby has multiple brands for brake pads: auto plus/auto extra, Bendix, Wagner and perfect stop.
Who here recognizes any of those and if so was your experience good or bad? Noisy? Lasts well?
One of the discount auto stores nearby has multiple brands for brake pads: auto plus/auto extra, Bendix, Wagner and perfect stop.
Who here recognizes any of those and if so was your experience good or bad? Noisy? Lasts well?
December 27th, 2016, 03:03 AM
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I like these, best pads I have found. I have them on 3 vehicles right now. They stop great, are quiet and very, very little dust.
http://www.wagnerbrake.com/products/...ermoquiet.html
And I buy them at Amazon, much cheaper. Here is an example I use on the blue car which has a disc "Kit" from a major supply house.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.wagnerbrake.com/products/...ermoquiet.html
And I buy them at Amazon, much cheaper. Here is an example I use on the blue car which has a disc "Kit" from a major supply house.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
December 27th, 2016, 06:48 AM
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Bendix, Wagner, Raybestos, and EIS are all respected US-made brand names. You can still get Wagner and Raybestos from RockAuto. Steer clear of NAPA. All their brake parts are Chinesium these days, even the more expensive "premium" brands. If you have a model that isn't well supported for replacement parts (like the 61-63 F-85 or the 65-70 full size cars), your choices are more limited. Kanter sells Chinesuim brake parts for these cars. Craig at Mobileparts usually has old stock US-made parts or can get them.
December 28th, 2016, 05:47 AM
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I would think more important than the brand would be the composition. Are all of the pads you listed available in the same composition? I prefer to install organic pads and shoes instead of semi-metallic or metallic.
December 28th, 2016, 07:18 AM
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The M/C I just bought from NAPA for my wife's 85 D88 was also Chinesium, though I knew that going in. Unfortunately I needed it right away and didn't have time to order the Raybestos one from RA.
I prefer the stopping power of semi-metallic and will happily put up with more frequent rotor/drum replacement and occasional squeaks. Use anti-squeak on the backs of the pads (and silicone grease where the pads/shoes touch the calipers or backing plates) and squeaks are rarely a problem with metallics.
December 28th, 2016, 01:43 PM
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Yeah, it really PI$$ED me off when I paid extra for their premium grade drums for my truck, only to find they were STILL Chinesium and STILL out of round right out of the box.
The M/C I just bought from NAPA for my wife's 85 D88 was also Chinesium, though I knew that going in. Unfortunately I needed it right away and didn't have time to order the Raybestos one from RA.
It has been 20 years that the cheap Chinese drums and rotors have been out of round, out of box.
I prefer the stopping power of semi-metallic and will happily put up with more frequent rotor/drum replacement and occasional squeaks. Use anti-squeak on the backs of the pads (and silicone grease where the pads/shoes touch the calipers or backing plates) and squeaks are rarely a problem with metallics.
The M/C I just bought from NAPA for my wife's 85 D88 was also Chinesium, though I knew that going in. Unfortunately I needed it right away and didn't have time to order the Raybestos one from RA.
It has been 20 years that the cheap Chinese drums and rotors have been out of round, out of box.
I prefer the stopping power of semi-metallic and will happily put up with more frequent rotor/drum replacement and occasional squeaks. Use anti-squeak on the backs of the pads (and silicone grease where the pads/shoes touch the calipers or backing plates) and squeaks are rarely a problem with metallics.
December 28th, 2016, 01:44 PM
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Yeah, it really PI$$ED me off when I paid extra for their premium grade drums for my truck, only to find they were STILL Chinesium and STILL out of round right out of the box.
The M/C I just bought from NAPA for my wife's 85 D88 was also Chinesium, though I knew that going in. Unfortunately I needed it right away and didn't have time to order the Raybestos one from RA.
I prefer the stopping power of semi-metallic and will happily put up with more frequent rotor/drum replacement and occasional squeaks. Use anti-squeak on the backs of the pads (and silicone grease where the pads/shoes touch the calipers or backing plates) and squeaks are rarely a problem with metallics.
The M/C I just bought from NAPA for my wife's 85 D88 was also Chinesium, though I knew that going in. Unfortunately I needed it right away and didn't have time to order the Raybestos one from RA.
I prefer the stopping power of semi-metallic and will happily put up with more frequent rotor/drum replacement and occasional squeaks. Use anti-squeak on the backs of the pads (and silicone grease where the pads/shoes touch the calipers or backing plates) and squeaks are rarely a problem with metallics.
December 28th, 2016, 02:27 PM
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Which is why I paid extra for their "premium" drums. I thought "premium" meant "higher quality". Silly me. Apparently the extra cost only covers the "insurance" costs of the longer warranty. The parts are exactly the same ones in their less expensive line. Another scam that pi$$es me off.
December 28th, 2016, 06:00 PM
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"Organic" pads actually stop the best, the first time, but lose their friction the fastest when they get hot.
For normal driving (no towing, no mountain roads, no racing), "organics" will stop best.
Once you get into any form of "high performance" or "heavy duty" use, the "semi-metallic" pads will do better.
For a lot of guys here, who "cruise" conservatively, the "organics" will be the best way to go.
Also, for guys with the unobtainium pre-'71 fullsize rotors, preserving their rotors will be a priority.
And, yes, go with an established American brand name, and you'll be alright.
- Eric
December 29th, 2016, 06:24 AM
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Couple that with the stop-and-go traffic in the Wash DC area (and self-centered drivers who will force their way in with no warning if you leave more than 0.8 of a car length in front of you) and I stand by my selection.
December 29th, 2016, 06:33 AM
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I've heard that "back in the day" one could get pads and shoes relined. I suppose this was during the time of asbestos brakes... 
Are NOS pads and shoes before a certain year simply asbestos instead of organic, semi-metallic, metallic or ceramic?
Are NOS pads and shoes before a certain year simply asbestos instead of organic, semi-metallic, metallic or ceramic?
December 29th, 2016, 06:47 AM
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Federal law required the production of asbestos brake linings in the US to end in 1993, and by 1995 asbestos linings were not allowed on new cars.
December 29th, 2016, 06:52 AM
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My driving style is best described as "heavy duty use".
Couple that with the stop-and-go traffic in the Wash DC area (and self-centered drivers who will force their way in with no warning if you leave more than 0.8 of a car length in front of you) and I stand by my selection.
Couple that with the stop-and-go traffic in the Wash DC area (and self-centered drivers who will force their way in with no warning if you leave more than 0.8 of a car length in front of you) and I stand by my selection.
- Eric
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