Rounded Nut - Brake Booster
#1
Rounded Nut - Brake Booster
Well I sure did it.
the bottom left nut is almost 100% rounded off.
I have removed the wiper motor to get better access. I’ve sprayed PB Blaster as well. There is a little pin in the way of getting a different angle that I am debating cutting off next to the threads but I need to find out what it goes to.
other options for removing? Very very little room.
thanks!
the bottom left nut is almost 100% rounded off.
I have removed the wiper motor to get better access. I’ve sprayed PB Blaster as well. There is a little pin in the way of getting a different angle that I am debating cutting off next to the threads but I need to find out what it goes to.
other options for removing? Very very little room.
thanks!
Last edited by MPSax; June 23rd, 2023 at 06:59 PM.
#3
Walk away and take a breath.
Its all good. An idea comes to mind.
What if you were to put the nut back on the stud that you have taken off and snug it a bit. Do you think that may even the pressure on the flange enough to make the nut you want to break free not be in a bind.
A couple things I have had success with are a bit of heat, yes the PB Blaster and when you get a snug grip on that nut ...Tap Tap Tap.. let that blaster soak a bit. Take your time. Breath...
Its all good. An idea comes to mind.
What if you were to put the nut back on the stud that you have taken off and snug it a bit. Do you think that may even the pressure on the flange enough to make the nut you want to break free not be in a bind.
A couple things I have had success with are a bit of heat, yes the PB Blaster and when you get a snug grip on that nut ...Tap Tap Tap.. let that blaster soak a bit. Take your time. Breath...
#6
Try a very long very sharp flat-blade screwdriver or a very sharp cutting chisel. Align an edge of the screwdriver blade or chisel blade onto an edge (or near to an edge) of the nut and strike a dead-blow onto the offending nut. Sometimes you're able to dead-blow the nut enough to get it to loosen up from the threads.
EDIT: If it loosens up, you can use vice-grips or channel locks to remove.
EDIT: If it loosens up, you can use vice-grips or channel locks to remove.
Last edited by Vintage Chief; June 24th, 2023 at 07:01 AM.
#8
#9
My Dad had a set of this style Multi Wrench that would be perfect for this situation.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144937523205
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144937523205
#10
Well, I used a dremel and took off some threads so I could try to get a socket on there.
no dice. We are totally round now!
I might try to use the same dremel and careful cut the nut and try to preserve the threads. If I can get it cut 3/4 of the way through I might be able to hit it with a flathead and hammer and break the nut off the threads.
done for the day. Will try this tomorrow.
no dice. We are totally round now!
I might try to use the same dremel and careful cut the nut and try to preserve the threads. If I can get it cut 3/4 of the way through I might be able to hit it with a flathead and hammer and break the nut off the threads.
done for the day. Will try this tomorrow.
#11
My Dad had a set of this style Multi Wrench that would be perfect for this situation.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144937523205
https://www.ebay.com/itm/144937523205
#12
[QUOTE=MPSax;1506883]Well, I used a dremel and took off some threads so I could try to get a socket on there.
no dice. We are totally round now!
I might try to use the same dremel and careful cut the nut and try to preserve the threads. If I can get it cut 3/4 of the way through I might be able to hit it with a flathead and hammer and break the nut off the threads.
You can with the dremel with a small cutoff wheel, like Joe Joe mentioned. Once you get close to the threads with the cutoff wheel ,I used a small chisel to split the nut. But it will separate from the threads enough to get it off.
no dice. We are totally round now!
I might try to use the same dremel and careful cut the nut and try to preserve the threads. If I can get it cut 3/4 of the way through I might be able to hit it with a flathead and hammer and break the nut off the threads.
You can with the dremel with a small cutoff wheel, like Joe Joe mentioned. Once you get close to the threads with the cutoff wheel ,I used a small chisel to split the nut. But it will separate from the threads enough to get it off.
#13
Had the same problem. Once you find a wrench that will work to get the nut off. Pre soak the bolt threads with some paint and varnish remover to dissolve the build up in the thread. The nut will unscrew a lot easier in that tight space.
#16
This may be a little far-fetched but you might try screwing a new nut down snug against the rounded nut. Mig weld the two nuts together and then put a six-point socket or box end wrench on the new nut and back them both off. If you don't have a Mig welder then the idea is moot.
#20
Well- used just about every suggestion.
BFH and Chisel, Dremel, Torch, PB Blaster. Nearly converted to whatever religion it took to get it off but I finally got it off!!
I can perhaps chase these threads but I think we may be a little beyond that. As much as I tried to save the threads, there’s not much there.
Would smacking this bolt with a hammer and punch push it back into the cab and I can press another bolt in through the firewall or would it mess up the thin metal firewall? Don’t want to do any more damage than what is done right now. Currently limited to just this one bolt.
thoughts?
BFH and Chisel, Dremel, Torch, PB Blaster. Nearly converted to whatever religion it took to get it off but I finally got it off!!
I can perhaps chase these threads but I think we may be a little beyond that. As much as I tried to save the threads, there’s not much there.
Would smacking this bolt with a hammer and punch push it back into the cab and I can press another bolt in through the firewall or would it mess up the thin metal firewall? Don’t want to do any more damage than what is done right now. Currently limited to just this one bolt.
thoughts?
#21
One of the bolts on my car fell out when I removed the nut. The bolts have a round head and are spot welded to the inside of the firewall. You might be able to use a chisel and hammer to break the weld from under the dash. Just depends upon how much stuff is in the way.
One thing to keep in mind is with a new regular bolt you will need a wrench on the bolt head under the dash and the nut behind the booster.
I just realized you could use one of those flat bolt retainer / washer on the engine side to hold the bolt in place. Tighten the retainer so the bolt can’t turn, then just tighten the nut.
One thing to keep in mind is with a new regular bolt you will need a wrench on the bolt head under the dash and the nut behind the booster.
I just realized you could use one of those flat bolt retainer / washer on the engine side to hold the bolt in place. Tighten the retainer so the bolt can’t turn, then just tighten the nut.
Last edited by Fun71; June 26th, 2023 at 05:07 PM.
#22
One of the bolts on my car fell out when I removed the nut. The bolts have a round head and are spot welded to the inside of the firewall. You might be able to use a chisel and hammer to break the weld from under the dash. Just depends upon how much stuff is in the way.
One thing to keep in mind is with a new regular bolt you will need a wrench on the bolt head under the dash and the nut behind the booster.
I just realized you could use one of those flat bolt retainer / washer on the engine side to hold the bolt in place. Tighten the retainer so the bolt can’t turn, then just tighten the nut.
One thing to keep in mind is with a new regular bolt you will need a wrench on the bolt head under the dash and the nut behind the booster.
I just realized you could use one of those flat bolt retainer / washer on the engine side to hold the bolt in place. Tighten the retainer so the bolt can’t turn, then just tighten the nut.
that’s not a bad option. I’m not a small person so working under the dash has its limitations.
#24
Use carbide drill bits. Begin with a small pilot hole, graduate to large drill bits and drill it out. I drilled out a threaded lug stud in a wheel and that metal is harder than the metal on that bolt.
#26
#27
Looking at the pictures Joe I think he's already there. Its been a few years since I pulled one of these pedal bracket assemblies out. I was thinking the stud didn't have a bolt head but a large flat piece that fit against the bracket then goes through the firewall. Is that right? If so, is that stud welded in place or just pressed in?
#28
Those studs are not attached to the firewall, they are on a replaceable part.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/40408140177...Bk9SR9Lm66-fYg
#29
Looking at the pictures Joe I think he's already there. Its been a few years since I pulled one of these pedal bracket assemblies out. I was thinking the stud didn't have a bolt head but a large flat piece that fit against the bracket then goes through the firewall. Is that right? If so, is that stud welded in place or just pressed in?
#30
OK, thank you for describing that as I didn't remember how the stud was attached. So if the OP drops the steering column I'm thinking it would still be easier to pull the pedal bracket and either replace the stud on a workbench or swap in another pedal bracket assembly.
#31
That's exactly how I did it on mine.
#33
I got a little carried away with my impact on the bolt for the sway bar link on my car when I was removing it. I wasn't quite on it and I buzzed that nut almost completely round. Those Turbo sockets that 2blu442 posted above took it off with no problems whatsoever. At this point I guess it is too late but they're pretty inexpensive and work excellent in these situations. They are pass-through as well so you can get a long stud right through and then use a deep socket on the Turbo socket.
Last edited by ourkid2000; June 28th, 2023 at 02:46 PM.
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