Confusion about 2-speed Jetaway
Confusion about 2-speed Jetaway
My four-door 68 Cutlass Supreme Holiday Sedan came with a 350 Rocket, Quadrajet carb and a 2-speed Jetaway. Recently I found a leak with the governor cover seal and attempted to look around for a replacement. I couldn't find a gasket to fit the 3-bolt style pattern cover so I called a transmission parts supplier I found on ebay and asked if he carried it. I told him what I had and he said "They didn't make Jetaways that year. You're gonna have to buy the whole rebuild kit for $89 to get that gasket"
Now I went on google and looked up some info on the transmission (Im still learning here) and I found this and forwarded to him:
The Super Turbine 300 (abbreviated ST-300) was a two-speed automatic transmission built by General Motors. It was used in various Buick, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac models from 1964-1969. It was the same transmission marketed under different brand names by each division including ST-300 by Buick, Jetaway by Olds and simply Automatic by Pontiac. The two-speed Jetaway automatic used in various Buick, Olds and Pontiac intermediate cars from 1964-1969).
The Super Turbine 300 (Jetaway) was introduced for the 1964 model year as a replacement for the earlier Buick Dynaflow and Oldsmobile/Pontiac Roto Hydramatic transmissions. It was the only automatic offered on GM A platform cars (Buick Skylark, Oldsmobile Cutlass, and Pontiac Tempest) through 1966, and was available on the full-sized Buick LeSabre and Oldsmobile Jetstar 88/Delmont 88 as a cheaper alternative to the three-speed Turbo-Hydramatic.
And this was his reply:
"This is Wrong! And if you use this info to order ST-300 parts by calling it a Jetaway you Will order the wrong parts. ST-300 is a ST-300 and it replaced the Jetaway"315" that was used 1958-1964. "
I am not sure which info is correct? From what I see, ST300 looks it has the same style governor cover with three bolts and I managed to find one for $2 shipped. Hopefully it will fit. Thanks.
Now I went on google and looked up some info on the transmission (Im still learning here) and I found this and forwarded to him:
The Super Turbine 300 (abbreviated ST-300) was a two-speed automatic transmission built by General Motors. It was used in various Buick, Oldsmobile, and Pontiac models from 1964-1969. It was the same transmission marketed under different brand names by each division including ST-300 by Buick, Jetaway by Olds and simply Automatic by Pontiac. The two-speed Jetaway automatic used in various Buick, Olds and Pontiac intermediate cars from 1964-1969).
The Super Turbine 300 (Jetaway) was introduced for the 1964 model year as a replacement for the earlier Buick Dynaflow and Oldsmobile/Pontiac Roto Hydramatic transmissions. It was the only automatic offered on GM A platform cars (Buick Skylark, Oldsmobile Cutlass, and Pontiac Tempest) through 1966, and was available on the full-sized Buick LeSabre and Oldsmobile Jetstar 88/Delmont 88 as a cheaper alternative to the three-speed Turbo-Hydramatic.
And this was his reply:
"This is Wrong! And if you use this info to order ST-300 parts by calling it a Jetaway you Will order the wrong parts. ST-300 is a ST-300 and it replaced the Jetaway"315" that was used 1958-1964. "
I am not sure which info is correct? From what I see, ST300 looks it has the same style governor cover with three bolts and I managed to find one for $2 shipped. Hopefully it will fit. Thanks.
Last edited by yeahbuddy; Aug 18, 2010 at 09:20 PM.
Oldsmobile called their version of the 2-speed ST300 "Jetaway". That's in all the 64-69 factory sales and service literature. Pontiac called their version "Tempest-torque". Only Buick called it Super Turbine 300 (and Super Turbine 400 for the original version of Turbo 400, which was a Buick/Cadillac thing for 1964).
Now- Olds also called their version of the 1956-60 Controlled Coupling 4-Speed Hydra-Matic "Jetaway". That's where yer trans guy is losing his focus. If he's a trans guy he should know that.
And Pontiac called it "Super Hydra-Matic". Only Cadillac called it "Controlled Coupling". Buick being Buick would have nothing to do with a Hydra-Matic- they said it was too jerky for a Buick. Fine for a Cadillac or Rolls Royce, but too jerky for a Buick. I always suspected the real reason they wouldn't use it was because they did not design it.
Now- Olds also called their version of the 1956-60 Controlled Coupling 4-Speed Hydra-Matic "Jetaway". That's where yer trans guy is losing his focus. If he's a trans guy he should know that.
And Pontiac called it "Super Hydra-Matic". Only Cadillac called it "Controlled Coupling". Buick being Buick would have nothing to do with a Hydra-Matic- they said it was too jerky for a Buick. Fine for a Cadillac or Rolls Royce, but too jerky for a Buick. I always suspected the real reason they wouldn't use it was because they did not design it.
Go with Fatsco if you need that particular gasket. Hell, it might even be the same gasket as the TH400's use, even a TH350 governor cover gasket might even work.
The 315 Jetaway (I believe) was called Stratoflight from 56-58, then updated to Super hydramatic as was mentioned. Also mentioned was the "tempest-torque". This can be confusing too, as Pontiac called their version of the Corvair Powerglide, u guessed it, TEMPEST-TORQUE. So there are two TEMPEST-TORQUES.
The ST300 part should work just fine.
The 315 Jetaway (I believe) was called Stratoflight from 56-58, then updated to Super hydramatic as was mentioned. Also mentioned was the "tempest-torque". This can be confusing too, as Pontiac called their version of the Corvair Powerglide, u guessed it, TEMPEST-TORQUE. So there are two TEMPEST-TORQUES.
The ST300 part should work just fine.
Last edited by d2_willys; Aug 19, 2010 at 11:02 AM.
Thanks for the great info. Ironically enough i ordered a gasket from the same place. Fatsco. I found him on ebay i gave him a call he was nice enough to mail me a gasket all the way here to california. It was only two bucks. Finally, i can take care of the transmission leaking issue.
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