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Old October 12th, 2018, 02:29 PM
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Needle in a haystack...

Greetings to all ye Oldsmobilers!
While returning from the Endless Summer Cruise today I noticed my Turbo 400 has developed a leak. From what I can tell, the fluid is "collecting" along the floorboard under the passenger side seat and splashing onto the passenger side exhaist.
I don't see any fluid on the underside where the foot panel is so I'm thinking it's coming from the passenger side of the transmission somewhere. My 72 Cutlass Supreme does have a tranny fluid cooler and as of now she upshifts and downshifts fine.
Also, I don't feel any slipping whether I'm under acceleration or on an incline, and I don't see any fluid around the pan seal. I did add a quart before I left to come home so is it possible I overfilled? I did check my dipstick really good before I added the quart and it looked low. After I added the quart it looked good.
Can anyone give me some direction where to look for this "needle in a haystack?"

Thanks,
Dave

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Old October 12th, 2018, 03:51 PM
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Clean the floorboards and trans, drive a bit, then look for the trans fluid. That should tell you where the leak is.

There aren't a whole lot of things on the drivers side of the transmission that can leak. Most things are on the passengers side (cooling lines, vacuum modulator, dipstick, etc).
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It could be manual shaft selector seal or speedometer cable. If you can get clean, keep an eye on it.
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Old October 12th, 2018, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
Clean the floorboards and trans, drive a bit, then look for the trans fluid. That should tell you where the leak is.

There aren't a whole lot of things on the drivers side of the transmission that can leak. Most things are on the passengers side (cooling lines, vacuum modulator, dipstick, etc).
DUH!!!! I'm such a goof! It IS on the passenger side. I don't think it's coming from where the dipstick tube goes into the tranny, and I don't see a buildup of fluid around the modulator. Any more ideas?
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Old October 12th, 2018, 04:23 PM
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isnt there a vent tube on that side of the trans?
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Old October 12th, 2018, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jcdynamic88
isnt there a vent tube on that side of the trans?
Dunno...can anyone else answer this, and if so, where would it be
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Old October 12th, 2018, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
is it possible I overfilled? I did check my dipstick really good before I added the quart and it looked low. After I added the quart it looked good.​​​
You haven't told is the full story here. HOW did you check the transmission fluid? Not cold, I hope. You're supposed to check it with the engine and transmission fully warmed up and the engine running and in Park when you remove the dipstick. If you checked it cold with the engine off, then, yes, it would likely look to be low, and if you added a quart on the basis of this, you could easily have overfilled it. This could result in fluid being pushed out the top of the dipstick tube and running down the side of the tube onto the transmission once it warms up and you're cruising down the highway.
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
You haven't told is the full story here. HOW did you check the transmission fluid? Not cold, I hope. You're supposed to check it with the engine and transmission fully warmed up and the engine running and in Park when you remove the dipstick. If you checked it cold with the engine off, then, yes, it would likely look to be low, and if you added a quart on the basis of this, you could easily have overfilled it. This could result in fluid being pushed out the top of the dipstick tube and running down the side of the tube onto the transmission once it warms up and you're cruising down the highway.
Engine was running and in park...don't remember if engine was up to temp though.
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The vent is on the passenger side of the case, around the 11 O’clock position of your looking from the front of the car. That’s about the only place fluid could come from a elevated area. Other possible leak points are the vacuum modulator o-ring, the dipstick tube, pan gasket, or around the pump. If the trans is overfilled my guess would be for the vent. Get it up to operating temp, idling in park and on level ground. If it’s over full drain some out.
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It good have a bad governor cover gasket also.
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
It good have a bad governor cover gasket also.
The fluid is collecting forward of the governor.
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
It good have a bad governor cover gasket also.

oops, forgot to mention the govenor cover!
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If it was the vent tube, wouldn't I see tranny fluid on the underside of the foot panel?
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Started it up today and let in run for about 30 min or so. Checked the fluid and it was low. Added half a quart and that topped it off. I checked for leaks and didn't see any fluid. No leaks in the driveway and I checked for leaks once it was warmed up but didn't see where it's coming from...thoughts?
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Drive it and run the RPM up, then look for evidence of leaks.
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Did your car sit for awhile before it developed the leak? If so the torque converter will drain back into the pan causing it to be over full (why you need to check fluid level at operating temperature). This will often cause intermittent leaks on things that wouldn’t normally leak. In my case it was the kick down cable(Th350). The housing was cracked and when the torque converter would drain, fluid levels would rise and the leak would present.
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Of you can’t determine for sure where it’s leaking from, get some A/C oil with fluorescent dye and pour a little in the trans fluid. Run the trans for a while, then look with a black light. The dye will highlight exactly where the leak is coming from
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