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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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Th400 tailshafts

Ok I want to get this straightened out.
1.-There is a short shaft, a medium shaft and a long shaft, correct?
2-shortys are in A bodys like a 71 cutlass??
3-Mediums are in 70's delta 88s?
4.-and the real long ones are in Chubby suburbans and stuff like that?

5.-Is it 4'', 8'' and 12'' or what? I'm kinda confused here.
6-Or are there only 2... long and short?


7.-Is there a medium 375 or something?
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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I would think the longest ones would be the best, because there is less driveshaft to transfer power through, or twist.
However the longer ones that I have seen
go for cheaper.

I myself have only had to deal with th350s, always with 4 '' tailshafts.
80 delta
72 skylark
79 camaro.
etc etc

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Old Dec 11, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by J-(Chicago)
I myself have only had to deal with th350s, always with 4 '' tailshafts.
TH350 come in two tailshaft lengths.
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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400's have 4", 9" and 13" tail shafts, don't know for sure which is in what, but I'm pretty sure most chevys came with 4" shafts
Old Dec 11, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Thanks guys.
I am interested in learning more about this.
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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I clipped this from a web site a long time ago. Not sure where (possibly TCI) but many transmission sites have detailed info on trans sizes.


A - overall length
B - Length from bell housing face (surface that mounts to engine) to tail (A-B=Tail shaft length)
C - Length from bell housing face to trans mount
D - Distance between trans mount bolts
E - Bell housing width



TH350 (bellhousing pattern - Chevrolet, BOP, Fit-All)
Style
A
B
C
D
E
6" tailshaft
27 11/16
21 5/8
20 3/8
3 ¾
19 1/8
9" tailshaft
30 11/16
21 5/8
20 3/8
3 ¾
19 1/8
12" tailshaft
33 27/32
21 5/8
20 3/8
3 ¾
19 1/8
TH400 (bellhousing pattern - Chevrolet, BOP)
Style
A
B
C
D
E
C tailshaft
28 3/8
24 5/16
26 15/16
4 ¼
20
D tailshaft
33 27/32
24 5/16
27 15/16
4 ¼
20
13" tailshaft
37 7/8
24 5/16
27 21/32
1 ¾
20
2004R (bellhousing pattern - BOP, Fit-All)
Style
A
B
C
D
E
All
27 11/16
integral tailhousing
27
3 ¾
19 1/8
Old Dec 12, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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Sorry. It looked much better before I hit send.
Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:10 AM
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without a spreadsheet program it is hard to do, don't worry.
Old Dec 22, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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it was very random

every 80s truck i have ever parted with the 400 trans in it was always the short tail

overal trans length including the output yoke(bolt on style) is always the same 31.5" as the 9" tail th350

its crazy like that

the old long tail th400 were way long time ago in the big cars

not common at all anymore

this goes for regular 3L80/th400 only and only 4x2 version


not for the 3L80HD or any other 400 variants


4x4 was a whole different tailshaft than 4x2
the 3L80HD started in 87 and up in the trucks and was 34.5" long overall
and had the 27 spline output like a th350 and 700r4 and so on

tag code LJA and HD cast on the case at the bellhousing top side

i own one and have seen two so far

it is complicated

i have found that the charts and info online that show lengths of GM trannies that are often 1" incorrect

i dont know why

when you put a tape measure on the actual trannies and measure them they are actually 1" longer than stated online

375 and 375B were combinations of the th350 and the th400,
one was a 400 case and the other was a 350 case

th375:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo-H...Hydramatic_375


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbo-H...L80_.2F_3L80HD

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Old Dec 22, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by J-(Chicago)
I would think the longest ones would be the best, because there is less driveshaft to transfer power through, or twist.
However the longer ones that I have seen
go for cheaper.

I myself have only had to deal with th350s, always with 4 '' tailshafts.
80 delta
72 skylark
79 camaro.
etc etc


uhmmm... th350 were 3, 6, 9, and 12" tails

so..

3" were in 4x4

12" were in some late 70s wagons

6" were in 69-72 trucks and in most cars

9" were in all 73-up trucks

you guys are so very amusing

ya'll must not have owned very many gm products or been into very many

wow.,

Last edited by fast68; Dec 22, 2007 at 09:59 AM.
Old Dec 23, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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It seems you guys are correct.
always with 6 inch tailshafts. My bad. I was just eyeballin' them
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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My th400 is a 9'' I just measured that one too.
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