TH400 Long shaft under A-Body’s?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old August 17th, 2020, 05:59 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Green72faux42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Grants Pass,Oregon
Posts: 7
TH400 Long shaft under A-Body’s?

Anybody have any experience with this? I’m sure crossmember location and driveline length require modification..would/does the angle cause vibration problems?
Green72faux42 is offline  
Old August 17th, 2020, 06:21 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
4speed455's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Modesto CA
Posts: 1,551
I had one in an A-body for a while. Crossmember bolts to the factory 400 location. Drive line does need to be shortened. No vibration on mine. The problem I had was after put in a shift kit, new seals, gaskets, pan, cut the driveline and actually bolted everything together, then I discovered there was no provision for a speedometer. The 68 Delta 88 that I pulled the 455/400 from used the front wheel to drive the speedo instead of the transmission.
4speed455 is offline  
Old August 17th, 2020, 08:10 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
Green72faux42's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Grants Pass,Oregon
Posts: 7
Originally Posted by 4speed455
I had one in an A-body for a while. Crossmember bolts to the factory 400 location. Drive line does need to be shortened. No vibration on mine. The problem I had was after put in a shift kit, new seals, gaskets, pan, cut the driveline and actually bolted everything together, then I discovered there was no provision for a speedometer. The 68 Delta 88 that I pulled the 455/400 from used the front wheel to drive the speedo instead of the transmission.
Well that’s good news! Sorry you had to learn that way. I learned about the speedo issue myself awhile back..after I had It rebuilt as well: I pulled the TH400 from a 70 delta 88 and luckily it had the spot for the cable on the trans..don’t know if it was the original trans,but it’s what I need for my 72 cutlass.
Green72faux42 is offline  
Old August 18th, 2020, 01:17 AM
  #4  
Registered User
 
jmcghee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: New Castle De
Posts: 499
I would convert the trans to short tail shaft
jmcghee is offline  
Old August 18th, 2020, 05:33 AM
  #5  
Old(s) Fart
 
joe_padavano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 47,668
Originally Posted by jmcghee
I would convert the trans to short tail shaft
Converting the trans requires complete disassembly. The output shaft needs to be changed in addition to the tailhousing, and the output shaft is the very last piece to come out of the case and the first one to go back in. Buying a new output shaft and tailhousing will cost more than just buying a short tail TH400 core.

And as noted above, long tail TH400s that came out of 1965-70 Olds full size cars do not have provision for driving a speedo cable, since those cars drove the speedo off the LH front wheel. In most cases the trans case isn't machined for the cable adapter, so you can't retrofit those parts without putting the case on a milling machine.

And finally, the additional length is aft of the mounting boss. The trans mount is in the same place on every TH400.
joe_padavano is offline  
Old August 18th, 2020, 08:01 AM
  #6  
Gary
 
VC455's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Gillespie County Texas
Posts: 2,156
Originally Posted by Green72faux42
Anybody have any experience with this? I’m sure crossmember location and driveline length require modification..would/does the angle cause vibration problems?
Long vs. short tailshaft will not change the engine-transmission angle. However it changes the universal joint angles. It changes them proportionally, so this would not normally create vibration.

If your rear axle upper and lower control arm bushings are tired, the tailshaft change could possibly put you into a vibration.
VC455 is online now  
Old August 18th, 2020, 08:11 AM
  #7  
Old(s) Fart
 
joe_padavano's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern VA
Posts: 47,668
Originally Posted by VC455
Long vs. short tailshaft will not change the engine-transmission angle.
It shouldn't, however other things might. For example, I have one car that was incorrectly jacked up under the open channel section of the frame below the rockers. This caused the lower flange of the frame rail to bend upward. Moving the crossmember rearward to swap in a TH400 would require the crossmember to sit on this distorted part of the frame, changing the engine-trans angle. Yeah, this is an obscure issue, but not impossible.
joe_padavano is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bassemaa93
Transmission
3
July 19th, 2016 08:02 AM
dfire25
Drivetrain/Differentials
8
September 24th, 2013 08:02 PM
64 CUTLASS KEN
Transmission
3
November 22nd, 2010 05:17 PM
scubastever
Parts Wanted
2
January 13th, 2010 09:21 AM
Schober Motorsports
Transmission
9
October 20th, 2009 07:08 PM



Quick Reply: TH400 Long shaft under A-Body’s?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:20 AM.