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Old January 14th, 2018, 07:14 AM
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Stupid money for stupid stripes. $47K for this.

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Old January 14th, 2018, 07:31 AM
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yup, 43k plus buyers premium. yikes those stripes
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Old January 14th, 2018, 07:32 AM
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that car would look way better without the stripe.i can't understand doing this
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Old January 14th, 2018, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jcdynamic88 View Post
that car would look way better without the stripe.i can't understand doing this
Yeah. When these cars were new, I can't recall ever seeing one on the street that had the stripes. Now you can't find a 68 that DOESN'T have them, all applied incorrectly. They are not an esthetic success, even when correctly applied. It pains me to have to repaint them on my 68 W-30.
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i have had 3 68 442s (in the 70s)and only one had the stripes.it blows my mind that olds didn't put the 442 #s in the same position for both applications.
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I am amazed at the amount of cars out there by clueless owners with the incorrect stripes on them. They seem to pop up more and more on facebook by proud new owners.
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How are these?

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^^^^ yup
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Old January 14th, 2018, 09:22 AM
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I'm guessing because most of us know it makes it look worse than it is. I agree it still looks "off" but it looks more "off" to us because we know where it should be. In the end I think the correct version of that stripe treatment is one of the best patterns Oldsmobile put out.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 11:19 AM
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Column shift. Bench seat. No dash stripe.

Some misinformed moron saw the Scarlet 68 four speed survivor that sold for $49k earlier and somehow thought this one was of the same caliber. This should have been a $25k car.... Dumbass....

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Old January 14th, 2018, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by allyolds68 View Post
Column shift. Bench seat. No dash stripe.

Some misinformed moron saw the Scarlet 68 four speed survivor that sold for $49k earlier and somehow thought this one was of the same caliber. This should have been a $25k car.... Dumbass....
I go to a lot of auctions in general, not necessarily car auctions, and there are a lot of people who think that, just because I bought it at an auction, "I got a good deal". I have seen people pay more than list price for items without warrantees. It sucks to be them. I feel bad if I pay more than distress price for something, or melt weight price for gold or silver jewerly.
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Personally, I like an original W-36 stripe on a '68 442. You would think an owner asking that price would had done their research before applying the non-original stripes in that fashion. That irks me almost as bad as '69 W30/W31 hood stripes on a standard '70 Cutlass/442 hood, 'skunk' stripes on the trunk of an Oldsmobile (excluding the Hurst & Pace cars), or a W-35 spoiler on a convertible.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Kiehl View Post
I go to a lot of auctions in general, not necessarily car auctions, and there are a lot of people who think that, just because I bought it at an auction, "I got a good deal". I have seen people pay more than list price for items without warrantees. It sucks to be them. I feel bad if I pay more than distress price for something, or melt weight price for gold or silver jewerly.
It's all about "winning" and the "it's only a dollar more" mentality. This is why I don't waste my time bidding on ebay until the last few seconds. Prior to that you're just bumping the price up. As for overpaying at auctions, I've been at farm auctions where uninformed buyers pay more than the new price for a used item. Why? Doesn't everyone have Google on their phone?
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Old January 14th, 2018, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442 View Post
How are these?

Maybe we should make this photo a sticky.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 03:54 PM
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The late, great Chris Witt had a chunk of 68 fender showing measurements.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 04:18 PM
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The late, great Chris Witt had a chunk of 68 fender showing measurements.
Check these out. I can't take credit for these and I can't for the life of me remember the guys name who took a lot time doing this. It will dawn on me who did it and I will give them due credit. I know he was from CT. and was real active a while back but not so much lately. He would kill me if he saw this and not remember his name. ANYBODY? First name Jeff?

I finally remembered his name. It was Jeff Salinardi.










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Originally Posted by anthonyP View Post
Personally, I like an original W-36 stripe on a '68 442. You would think an owner asking that price would had done their research before applying the non-original stripes in that fashion. That irks me almost as bad as '69 W30/W31 hood stripes on a standard '70 Cutlass/442 hood, 'skunk' stripes on the trunk of an Oldsmobile (excluding the Hurst & Pace cars), or a W-35 spoiler on a convertible.
Agreed.
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Old January 14th, 2018, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442 View Post
How are these?

looks dead-on compared to these
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Old January 14th, 2018, 07:58 PM
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Stupid money for stupid stripes. $47K for this.

Is this misalignment stripes is caused by an after market fender or the holes for the emblem is drilled in the wrong spot?
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Old January 14th, 2018, 08:07 PM
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numbers on the fender are too far forward on blue car
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Originally Posted by ELY442 View Post
Is this misalignment stripes is caused by an after market fender or the holes for the emblem is drilled in the wrong spot?
Cars without stripes had the holes for the 442 emblem punched farther forward on the fender. The cars that had the stripe had holes punched farther back to center the emblems and the stripe between the back edge of the fender and the wheel opening. That is why you see many 68 cars with the stripes out of wack (too far forward). the emblems aren't placed wrong it just means the car wasn't ordered with the stripe.
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Old January 15th, 2018, 03:25 AM
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Is this misalignment stripes is caused by an after market fender or the holes for the emblem is drilled in the wrong spot?
To add to the previous replies, in addition to being further back the fender emblems are also lower. Just below the wheel opening.
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I actually assumed all the 68 442's came with them, there are so many. The white with black stripes done to factory spec looks much better than the first abortion car.
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Old January 15th, 2018, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by olds 307 and 403 View Post
I actually assumed all the 68 442's came with them, there are so many. The white with black stripes done to factory spec looks much better than the first abortion car.
Nearly NONE of the 1968 442s came with them. Today you can't find a 68 that doesn't have them, usually in the wrong place. Same way that you can't find a 70-72 car that doesn't have a repro W25 hood and incorrect wide side stripes.
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Old January 15th, 2018, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda View Post
The late, great Chris Witt had a chunk of 68 fender showing measurements.
Unfortunately, it was not Chris.

Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442 View Post
I finally remembered his name. It was Jeff Salinardi.
User bigblockolds, from this post back in 2009.

And finally, thanks to Mike (allyolds68) for this page from the PIM:

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that should be a sticky!
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I feel the same way every time I see a '70-'73 Camaro with stripes painted runout style on the rear spoiler. What, you paid good money for that paint job, but didn't care enough to do it right?
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Does everyone agree that Jeff Salinardiís W36 measurements are all correct? Iíd like to use them for reference for my 442 restoration. óBilly
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Does everyone agree that Jeff Salinardiís W36 measurements are all correct? Iíd like to use them for reference for my 442 restoration. óBilly
or you could just use the assembly manual drawing:

when Jeff made those measurements this drawing hadnít surfaced. This drawing should be consistent with Jeffís pictures but honestly I havenít checked


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Thanks. Yes I did have that drawing but some of the numbers arenít clear enough. And also why .626 ? Is that .626 of an inch? óBilly
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Thanks. Yes I did have that drawing but some of the numbers arenít clear enough. And also why .626 ? Is that .626 of an inch? óBilly
Yes, Inches. 5/8" is .625, I'm not sure why they just couldn't say that. Probably because the supplier could only supply .626
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Is this misalignment stripes is caused by an after market fender or the holes for the emblem is drilled in the wrong spot?

obvious mistake, what happens when you get Non-Olds people adding stuff uniformed..

the 442 numbers are in the original placement and they just added the stripes, because they thought it would look cool.

they missed the fact the the original stripe cars had the numbers moved back slightly to make the strip look correct (more centered) at the bottom of the fender..
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Is this misalignment stripes is caused by an after market fender or the holes for the emblem is drilled in the wrong spot?
What didn't help is that about 15 years ago a company called either Phoenix Graphics or Stencils and Stripes (I can't remember which) started offering a vinyl stripe kit on EBay and they pictured the incorrect placement. Everyone started believing that was the "correct" placement
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Sticky time for sure...but the stickys are getting long. Might be time to folder-ize?
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