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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:22 AM
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Compression Ratio?

I just picked up a rebuilt 69 350 w/#5 heads on it. I was told that it has the KB Silvolite pistons, which are rated at a compression ratio of 8.4 to 1 on their website. Of course, it does not say with what size combustion chamber head they used to figure out that ratio. My motor has the #5 heads which I believe have a 62cc combustion chamber. Assuming that the heads were not milled, does anyone have a rough idea what the compression ratio range would be?
Old Jan 16, 2008 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
........ KB Silvolite pistons, which are rated at a compression ratio of 8.4 to 1 on their website ........
I checked the KB-Silvolite website. Search of the Silvolite section, showed nothing for Oldsmobile. KB search showed only 403/455 pistons.

Post a link to the site, where you got that number, and we can go from there.

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Old Jan 16, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Here you go Norm.
http://kb-silvolite.com/spistons.php?sort=S_Div

http://kb-silvolite.com/spistons.php...tails&S_id=566
Old Jan 17, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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I did receive a reply from their website stating that the compression ratio would be around 8.6 to 1. I was really hoping for a higher number in the 9.5 to 10 range that would run on pump gas and run strong. I have headers and flowmasters as you can see in my sig, but they probably would not help this motor that much due to the low compression. I also wanted to put on a performer RPM manifold and a more aggressive cam, but I believe I need to put in a set of pistons that will bump up my ratio first. Some other posts mentioned badger pistons. Are they the best choice? Am I on the right track with this? Please let me know. Thanks.
Old Jan 17, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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I like the Speed pro forged flat tops.
Old Jan 17, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by J-(Chicago)
Thanks.

Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
........ compression ratio of 8.4 to 1 on their web site .........
Using the numbers, from that site:
        From one of captjims posts. The one he deleted.
          From the opening post.
            And assuming nominal (plus or minus nothing) factory dimensions, for the rest of the short block:

            .040" gasket = 8.01 to 1
            .015" gasket = 8.40 to 1.

            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ #5 heads which I believe have a 62cc combustion chamber .......
            My information says they are 68 cc. I don't know, as I have never cc'd one.

            For what it's worth, here are the numbers, using 68 cc:

            .040" gasket = 7.62 to 1
            .000" gasket = 8.20 to 1.

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            Old Jan 17, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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            I am definitely not happy with those compression numbers from a power standpoint. I may just throw it in the car and see how it runs, but I guess when I have the money, I will need to buy a set of flat top pistons to get the compression ratio higher. Thanks for the info Norm, greatly appreciated
            Old Jan 17, 2008 | 07:14 PM
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            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ hoping for a higher number in the 9.5 to 10 range that would run on pump gas ........
            8 to 1 can, and will, run, very well, on pump gas.

            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ other posts mentioned badger pistons ........
            Excellent product.

            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ Are they the best choice? ........
            Depends on many factors: What is your goal? Budget? Driving habits? Family car? Daily driver? % street? % race? % other?

            How much loss in MPG/driveability can you live with?

            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ Am I on the right track with this?
            Which track you use, depends where you want to go.

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            Old Jan 17, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            I am definitely not happy with those compression numbers from a power standpoint ........
            Too many people are hung up on "static" compression numbers. Sounds like you have been listening to some of them.

            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ throw it in the car and see how it runs ........
            Good start. You can find out what you actually have, before you start "fixing" it.

            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ I will need to buy a set of flat top pistons to get the compression ratio higher ........
            A cam change might, very well, be a better investment.

            I suggest you consult with a good engine machinist/builder, before you start throwing money into the pit.

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            Old Jan 18, 2008 | 07:11 AM
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            [PHP]Too many people are hung up on "static" compression numbers. Sounds like you have been listening to some of them.[/PHP]

            I have just heard from engine builders and even Summit Tech line that I should have around 9.5 to 10 for a streetable compression ratio that yields the most power.

            [PHP]Depends on many factors: What is your goal? Budget? Driving habits? Family car? Daily driver? % street? % race? % other?

            How much loss in MPG/driveability can you live with? [/PHP]

            This is not a daily driver/family car. It is going to be a fun car that I want to be reliable, run on pump gas, etc. I don't have a track around me so it won't be for racing. I do want to run it on the street with good pull off of the line. I am hoping for this car to be capable of running in the 13's. I have read some other 350 builds on OldsPower, and with minor enhancements these motors can run in that speed range.

            I probably will just throw it in first to see how it runs and go from there. Thanks for the advice.

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            Old Jan 18, 2008 | 09:06 AM
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            Tech section on this web site lists #5 heads with 64cc chambers.
            Old Jan 18, 2008 | 02:54 PM
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            #5 heads cc

            although I'm a new guy here, I've been running my olds350 with 5 heads since 1968 and I have to say over the last fourty years I have seen #5 heads listed at 62 , 64 , and 68 cc. I for sure will be ccing my heads the next time I have them off.
            Old Jan 18, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ engine builders and even Summit Tech line that ........
            I don't know which "engine builders", but "Summit" is not well known for accurate tech information.

            Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
            ........ around 9.5 to 10 for a streetable compression ratio that yields the most power ........
            As stated, I doubt that you could ever find anyone who would disagree.

            Originally Posted by Chumley
            Tech section on this web site lists #5 heads with 64cc chambers.
            It's a "cut and paste" from 442.com. Nuff said?

            Originally Posted by tonycpe
            ........ been running my olds350 with 5 heads since 1968 ........
            In a '33 Plymouth?

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            Old Jan 20, 2008 | 01:01 PM
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            Yes , in a '33 plymouth., with a '63 olds rear end

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            Old Jan 20, 2008 | 11:39 PM
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            I like the way you think.

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            Old Jan 21, 2008 | 02:42 PM
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            I sure like the look of that too.
            Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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            I think between 9.5 to 1 and 10.1. I think the #5's are 64cc.
            Old Jan 22, 2008 | 01:25 PM
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            I think they're 64cc.
            Old Jan 22, 2008 | 08:11 PM
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            I have a question that relates to this topic . . . what's the piston dish volume of the '69 SBO 350 that has 9.0:1 compression?

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