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Old Oct 6, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Red face Silly mechanical fuel pump question

I think I know the answer to this but have to ask anyway -
If you put your finger over the suction inlet and crank the engine, you should feel a suction, right?
I feel nothing and no fuel comes out. Gas tank is full, car has been sitting for 6 months, and it ran perfectly when last parked. I am guessing the diaphragm dried out and cracked, thanks to the crappy ethenol.
Just need some confirmations before changing it.
Thanks!

Edit -old one was an airtex, installed 10 years ago.
Is Carter or spectra any better than airtex? Airtex was the cheapest...
Old Oct 6, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Possible the connection came loose at the gas tank?

I'd change the pump anyway, it's cheap insurance that you dont get stuck somewhere along the road.
Old Oct 6, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Only a couple of other possible causes that I can think of. Clogged at the tank pickup. broken fuel line or pin holes causing the pump to only suck air
Old Oct 6, 2013 | 03:22 PM
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I disconnected the inlets at the pump, put my fingers over them right at the pump, cranked the engine, and felt no suction. Should I?
Old Oct 6, 2013 | 05:26 PM
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To be honest I've never tried that, If I had fuel to the pump and nothing coming out, I replace them.
Old Oct 6, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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Yes it should pull a vacumn on the inlet to the pump.
Old Oct 7, 2013 | 06:11 PM
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Well I pulled the pump off this evening. took all of 10 minutes, included gathering the tools.
The lever moves up and down but the pump plunger does not. Looks like a keeper came off or something. Glad it happened while sitting in the driveway and not on the road!

It was a Carter, bought in 2000. I have the receipt and will claim the lifetime warranty on it tomorrow. Parts store ordered one and should be there now.
Cheap and easy - I love old cars!!

EDIT - it was not the keeper - i was not pulling the lever hard enough. The diaphragm had ruptured.
Old Oct 7, 2013 | 06:16 PM
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It always makes you stop and think when it happens in the driveway. I know you have traveled a lot in your car. Might think about a spare and the tools to change it.

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Old Oct 8, 2013 | 06:43 AM
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It always makes you stop and think when it happens in the driveway. I know you have travelled a lot in you car. Might think about a spare and the tools to change it.
Unfortunately, Murphy was an optimist. Carrying a spare part and tools to install it will only guarantee that a DIFFERENT part will be the one that strands you on the road...
Old Oct 8, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Unfortunately, Murphy was an optimist. Carrying a spare part and tools to install it will only guarantee that a DIFFERENT part will be the one that strands you on the road...

Hmmm, maybe we should tow a car just like the one we are driving and then .... Oh, what am I thinking.
Old Oct 8, 2013 | 11:05 AM
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This is why I don't carry ANY spare parts, OR a spare tire.
Old Oct 8, 2013 | 06:38 PM
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Well, i got the pump replaced for free at Oreillys - love that lifetime warranty!
Easy as can be, too, even for a 13 year old part. Very friendly folds at the store i went to.

Lifetime warranty is gone now and everything is just a year. I suspect modern part quality might be to blame. Only time will tell though.

The old one had a ruptured diaphragm, and as a result no suction. Earlier I was not pulling the lever hard enough to pull the plunger. I suspect our crappy fuel did this. As the car sat, fuel leaked back into the tank and the diaphragm dried out too many times.
I found that while covering the inlet on the new pump, I could not even pull the lever all the way down. It sucked hard!
In thinking about that, i do not recommend trying to check for suction at the pump with your fingers!

Pump was installed in half an hour and car runs great now. I love how old cars are so easy to work on for the most part.

I have the premier level of AAA, so if anything happens to any of my cars, I will just have it towed back to the house. So far I never had to use it, but it is good piece of mind. Breakdowns only happen at the most inconvenient times i have found....
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