850 Holley too much?

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Old Aug 1, 2024 | 06:01 PM
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850 Holley too much?

I have a small block olds 350 w forged flat top pistons and a big cam in my olds 98
I recently went thru the motor and swapped my edelbrock 750 and stock distributor with a Holley 850 double pumper and a msd distributor because I was getting a lot of detonation before.
I set the initial timing at 16 degrees and bumped it up a little until it pinged and then backed it back off

the car idles good but it bogs down if u smash on it or if you’re on the highway and you accelerate to pass it’ll bog down too and I can’t really adjust it to get any different results. I set the floats to what Holley said to do. Am I just bad at adjusting carbs or is this too much carb for my engine

I bought a 750 Holley w vacuum secondaries used off marketplace to try since it was really cheap. Would this be a better fit for my engine?
Old Aug 1, 2024 | 07:20 PM
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The carb shouldn't be a determining factor other than not feeding it. What fuel are you running and what is the total timing of the distributor in the engine? You need a dial back timing light to get the total timing figured out. Are you running a vacuum advance on the distributor too?

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Old Aug 1, 2024 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 66SportCoupe
The carb shouldn't be a determining factor other than not feeding it. What fuel are you running and what is the total timing of the distributor in the engine? You need a dial back timing light to get the total timing figured out. Are you running a vacuum advance on the distributor too?
i used the stock msd bushings n springs based off someone else’s advice off this forum and yes I have the vac advance hooked up
Old Aug 1, 2024 | 09:06 PM
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It bogs because the carb is too big, with insufficient signal/velocity to pull fuel from the boosters.
I'm guessing you have a relatively stock converter & gearing?

If you take it to 4500+ rpm then go full throttle it likely will not bog as the carb is getting into its operating airflow range.

You would be far better off with a vacuum secondary carb than a double pumper style carb on a heavy car.
The 750 should work out well.
Old Aug 2, 2024 | 04:46 AM
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You really don’t know what it’s doing.
Out of the box, that 850 is probably jetted rich.
But you have other factors as described too, converter, gear, car weight etc., not to mention power valve and accelerator pump settings.
You need to get a handle on exactly what it’s doing when it bogs, lean, rich, whatever.
And if you go back to a 750, that’s most likely jetted differently as well. You know what’s coming next, buy or borrow an air/fuel meter. It makes this process a helluva lot easier.
Old Aug 2, 2024 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
You really don’t know what it’s doing.
Out of the box, that 850 is probably jetted rich.
But you have other factors as described too, converter, gear, car weight etc., not to mention power valve and accelerator pump settings.
You need to get a handle on exactly what it’s doing when it bogs, lean, rich, whatever.
And if you go back to a 750, that’s most likely jetted differently as well. You know what’s coming next, buy or borrow an air/fuel meter. It makes this process a helluva lot easier.
tbh I didn’t even know what an air fuel meter was until just now I’m definitely gonna get one of those
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