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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 09:58 AM
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7a Head Work update** Measured volume

Update: measured the volume of these 1972 7a heads. Expected 64ish based on reading but they were close to spec. 68ccs checked twice. Just FYI for anyone searching.



Finally making the move to pull my 350 and have machine work done. From all my reading here and other places everyone recommends finding someone who knows olds engines specifically but they are very hard to find.

That being said for the heads is there something specifically I need to look for when speaking to a shop or is the work typical for all GM heads? Port, Polish, bowl work?

Same questions if I have them cut in bigger valves. Standard work or anything olds specific I should be looking for?

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Old Jul 26, 2018 | 11:13 AM
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Depends what your goals are. If you're just doing a street motor, 2"/1.62" will do fine and not break the bank. Any machine shop can do a valve job and surface the heads. I think those 7A heads have the raised exhaust spring pads so you'll have to keep that in mind as far as costs and valve spring choices go.
Old Jul 26, 2018 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by brownbomber77
Depends what your goals are. If you're just doing a street motor, 2"/1.62" will do fine and not break the bank. Any machine shop can do a valve job and surface the heads. I think those 7A heads have the raised exhaust spring pads so you'll have to keep that in mind as far as costs and valve spring choices go.
Yes just a street motor. Some say don't bother with the bigger valves. My goal is to just get the heads flowing better, get the compression up to just under 10 and up the cam, ideally without having to change the rockers springs push rods etc. I just pulled the head 10 minutes ago and I do have stock giant dish Pistons so looks like in going to have to put Pistons in this thing.
Old Jul 27, 2018 | 04:37 AM
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Don’t even think about reusing your old springs. You’re asking for trouble if you do, especially if you’re changing the cam.
Old Jul 27, 2018 | 07:32 AM
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If that's coolant in the lifter tray, how did it get there?
Old Jul 27, 2018 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Allan R
If that's coolant in the lifter tray, how did it get there?
I had some coolant spill out When I pulled the intake off. I didn't drain the coolant till before I pulled the heads so I had some spillage.
Old Jul 27, 2018 | 08:42 AM
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Well that's a relief. If it had been in there when you opened it up I was gonna say you have bigger problems than just heads.
Old Jul 27, 2018 | 03:13 PM
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Have read that the center valve guides should be on the loose side of the clearance spec to prevent the valve from seizing/sticking. Hopefully someone with experience on this chimes in. Although I've never seen one seize/stick that doesn't mean it won't.

Good luck!!!
Old Jul 27, 2018 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sugar Bear
Have read that the center valve guides should be on the loose side of the clearance spec to prevent the valve from seizing/sticking. Hopefully someone with experience on this chimes in. Although I've never seen one seize/stick that doesn't mean it won't.
Good luck!!!
Uhhh isn’t the center valve arrangement the same as a SBC? People make too much of that.
Old Jul 27, 2018 | 04:39 PM
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"Uhhh"...yes it is similar to the SBC; however, that wasn't the question. Should the center valve guide clearances on an Olds favor the loose side of the spec?

Thanks!!!
Old Jul 28, 2018 | 06:57 AM
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There have been a few builds where the center exhaust guides have stuck. It could be shops just slapping them all in too tight and those are the first to stick. If you want the heads to flow better, put in 2"/1.625" just like the factory did with the W31. Get them to open the bowls with a bowl hog cutter, any guides replaced to the right specs, new springs to match the cam, surfaced and done. Get Cutlassefi's Mahle 10cc dish pistons, they will give low to mid 9's compression, along with a cam from him. 10 to 1 is pretty high for a street cruiser with our old school heads. You will need 93 octane, aggressive cam, stall and gearing to match 10 to 1.
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Going to have make sure your re-builder is aware of Olds non adjustable rockers. Have changed out a few sets of valves that had been cut down because of the valve seat being cut after a few rebuilds.
Old Jul 30, 2018 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by classicmuscle.442
Going to have make sure your re-builder is aware of Olds non adjustable rockers. Have changed out a few sets of valves that had been cut down because of the valve seat being cut after a few rebuilds.
Yes, they need to all be within spec which is also another reason many will mill the heads .020" due to the thicker aftermarket head gaskets.
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