71 olds 350 cam suggestions
71 olds 350 cam suggestions
Hi Guys, I'm new here and was hoping to get some help with a cam suggestion for my 71' olds 350 from a group that knows a lot more about oldsmobiles than I do. I've owned numerous Chevys, Pontiacs and Buicks but I've only owned 1 Olds, a 68' Delmont 88 425 and growing up in the midwest sadly that was my winter car in the mid 80'a as a teenager.
I have a rebuilt 71' 350 with #7 heads, new stock valves, hardened seats, Edelbrock Performer Rpm, MSD Distributor w/ 6AL box, hooker 1 3/4 full length primary tube headers with a full length 2.5" exhaust with X pipe. I think the #7 heads are 64 cc combustion chambers from the factory. It has factory replacement 14 cc dished pistons and I was told it had .026 thick head gaskets not the .043. I aquired the engine from a friend that bought a 71' Cutlass with the engine and rebuild TH 350 but he decided to put an LS in his Cutlass. So I have a fresh 350 that I've already mocked up then installed in my 62' GMC/C10 for this year or so to cruise and have some stoplight fun with. I plan on building a serious Olds 455 in the future. The only thing missing in the SBO is a cam. The Comp cam that was in it destroyed a lobe during break in before my friend bought the Cutlass. The engine was completely torn down, extensively cleaned and reassembled.
My 62' GMC with the Olds 350 in it weight is 3446 lbs.
Rear end is a Factory Dana 44 posi with 3.54 gears.
Rear tires are 26'' tall
The convertor is only an 1800 stall
I've read every post I could find on a good low compression 350 Olds cam but haven't really seen anyone say "I've used this cam and it worked really well" the 350 Olds is a bit of a mystery to me. The short stroke, long rod, big bore, 1.77 rod to stroke ratio etc seems to be what you would normally build for a higher rpm hp application instead of a relatively low rpm torque engine.
So with the relatively low compression, new stock rockers and other parts listed what would you guys recommend for a cam? I definitely don't want a Chevy grind but something that was ground specifically for the Olds. I'm thinking something like this:
Advertised duration (int/exh) around 257/263
Duration at .050 around 214/220
LSA/ICL around 112/108
Gross valve lift around (int/exh)
.485/.490 I think .500 is the max with stock rockers.
I know that's vague without timing events... but something in that general area I think should make decent power if the overlap is kept relatively low. Should be good from 1000 - 5200, and push the cylinder pressure up to help the lower static compression as rpm goes up.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Roger
I have a rebuilt 71' 350 with #7 heads, new stock valves, hardened seats, Edelbrock Performer Rpm, MSD Distributor w/ 6AL box, hooker 1 3/4 full length primary tube headers with a full length 2.5" exhaust with X pipe. I think the #7 heads are 64 cc combustion chambers from the factory. It has factory replacement 14 cc dished pistons and I was told it had .026 thick head gaskets not the .043. I aquired the engine from a friend that bought a 71' Cutlass with the engine and rebuild TH 350 but he decided to put an LS in his Cutlass. So I have a fresh 350 that I've already mocked up then installed in my 62' GMC/C10 for this year or so to cruise and have some stoplight fun with. I plan on building a serious Olds 455 in the future. The only thing missing in the SBO is a cam. The Comp cam that was in it destroyed a lobe during break in before my friend bought the Cutlass. The engine was completely torn down, extensively cleaned and reassembled.
My 62' GMC with the Olds 350 in it weight is 3446 lbs.
Rear end is a Factory Dana 44 posi with 3.54 gears.
Rear tires are 26'' tall
The convertor is only an 1800 stall
I've read every post I could find on a good low compression 350 Olds cam but haven't really seen anyone say "I've used this cam and it worked really well" the 350 Olds is a bit of a mystery to me. The short stroke, long rod, big bore, 1.77 rod to stroke ratio etc seems to be what you would normally build for a higher rpm hp application instead of a relatively low rpm torque engine.
So with the relatively low compression, new stock rockers and other parts listed what would you guys recommend for a cam? I definitely don't want a Chevy grind but something that was ground specifically for the Olds. I'm thinking something like this:
Advertised duration (int/exh) around 257/263
Duration at .050 around 214/220
LSA/ICL around 112/108
Gross valve lift around (int/exh)
.485/.490 I think .500 is the max with stock rockers.
I know that's vague without timing events... but something in that general area I think should make decent power if the overlap is kept relatively low. Should be good from 1000 - 5200, and push the cylinder pressure up to help the lower static compression as rpm goes up.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Roger
Last edited by Rogerfoxtrot; Apr 3, 2023 at 04:17 PM. Reason: Spelling
Thanks Fun71 for the clarification on the #7 heads cc's. I've seen anywhere between 64 - 69 cc's 14 cc dish and as much as .028 in the hole. I've seen the invoice on this engine rebuilt and it says skim heads to clean up surface but no dimensions written in the comments. If I was having it built, it would have a pistons in it to raise it up to 0 deck and the heads would at least be pocket ported and gasket matched with BB valves but right now I'm going to work with what i have. Other than Mondello who's good with understanding oldsmobile cams? With my Buick stuff in the 80's Kenne Bell was the place to go. I know that Sig Erson ground the cams for them.
May be an opportune time to review this thread...
Cam Selection for 350 Olds
Cam Selection for 350 Olds
Thanks Fun71 for the clarification on the #7 heads cc's. I've seen anywhere between 64 - 69 cc's 14 cc dish and as much as .028 in the hole. I've seen the invoice on this engine rebuilt and it says skim heads to clean up surface but no dimensions written in the comments. If I was having it built, it would have a pistons in it to raise it up to 0 deck and the heads would at least be pocket ported and gasket matched with BB valves but right now I'm going to work with what i have. Other than Mondello who's good with understanding oldsmobile cams? With my Buick stuff in the 80's Kenne Bell was the place to go. I know that Sig Erson ground the cams for them.
We have an engine builder on here who is good with Olds engines and cams. PM Cutlassefi and he could help you.
Note: I am NOT a fan of Comp Cams because of cam and lifter failures.
You might find a 455 could be handle in your pick up. A pick up lacks weight over the rear wheels and if the nose is down like yours, a 350 Olds will smoke the tires.
......Just my two cents worth.
May be an opportune time to review this thread...
Cam Selection for 350 Olds
Cam Selection for 350 Olds
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If they took a skim cut to clean up, your pistons are probably still below the deck.
We have an engine builder on here who is good with Olds engines and cams. PM Cutlassefi and he could help you.
Note: I am NOT a fan of Comp Cams because of cam and lifter failures.
You might find a 455 could be handle in your pick up. A pick up lacks weight over the rear wheels and if the nose is down like yours, a 350 Olds will smoke the tires.
......Just my two cents worth.
If they took a skim cut to clean up, your pistons are probably still below the deck.
We have an engine builder on here who is good with Olds engines and cams. PM Cutlassefi and he could help you.
Note: I am NOT a fan of Comp Cams because of cam and lifter failures.
You might find a 455 could be handle in your pick up. A pick up lacks weight over the rear wheels and if the nose is down like yours, a 350 Olds will smoke the tires.
......Just my two cents worth.
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