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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 01:09 PM
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what yall think

I just recently finished my 455 build. Its in a 79 cutlass supreme with a turbo 350 trans and 373 gears. The motor has speed pro 9 to 1 pistions, comp cams 284 296 duration and 541 544 lift. Ported C heads with 2.07 and 1.68 valves. Its all topped with a Torker intake and a Holley 850. I wanna get it dynoed but I'm running short on cash. What kinda power yall think I'm putting out? Thanks in advance for any replies.
Old Jun 11, 2013 | 03:14 PM
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Sounds like a bad-*** for sure.
Are we taking bets?
455 at the rear wheels...why not?
Old Jun 11, 2013 | 03:58 PM
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let me take it for a spin Ill tell ya what I think its putting down ...no charge for that ...
Old Jun 11, 2013 | 04:07 PM
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Haha funny. I hope its gonna be bad. I would like a mid twelve at the track.
Old Jun 11, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Save 400 for the half day on the dyno. You will be glad u did and it will save u cash in the long run
Old Jun 11, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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400 isn't as bad as I expected. I was looking for higher.
Old Jun 11, 2013 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by yankees
save 400 for the half day on the dyno. You will be glad u did and it will save u cash in the long run
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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by brandon 455
400 isn't as bad as I expected. I was looking for higher.
I think he meant it would cost $400. for the half day, money well spent.

Too much cam for that compression, too much carb for that intake, I'll say 350-375 at the wheels but not till the mid 5000 range.
Figure Mondello did almost the same build on HP TV 2-3 years ago.
With Edelbrock heads, the same cam, 870 Street Avenger and a Performer it made 456 at the crank, on a cold morning. I'll stick with my guess.

Jmo.

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Old Jun 11, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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How is that to much cam? What would be a more suitable cam in your opinion?
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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How is that to much cam? What would be a more suitable cam in your opinion?
It's not too much cam, it's too much cam for your compression ratio imo.
That cam needs closer to 10.0:1 and so does that intake. And unless you're mostly strip you could have a gone a little smaller on the carb with that intake.

I just think your combo is a bit off, but that's just my opinion.

What number Speed Pro piston did you use?
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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I'm in the works of getting a new carb. The double pumper is a loaner. What would be your suggestions on a good carb?
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 12:39 PM
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I also have a performer intake. Which one is better for street and strip?
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 05:11 PM
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Try a 750 on the existing Torker and see how it goes from there.
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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I think it will do 12's all day but that cam is too big for your compression like Cutlassefi said. My guess is lower, between 400-425
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 07:24 PM
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Will someone explain to me at what point a cam becomes to large for compression? This was my first build.
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 07:40 PM
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Do you know the specs at .050?

Actually the Dynamic Compression ratio is more important overall than the Static Compression ratio.
This article is more eloquent than I could ever be and more informative.

http://cochise.uia.net/pkelley2/DynamicCR.html

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Old Jun 12, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Can't rattle them off top of my head but I will look up the part number.
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 08:26 PM
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335 hp & 390 TQ to the ground is my guess on your build. Your cam is a little much for your compression ratio. Also an 850 might make more power on the dyno but a 750 is plenty of carb for that engine on a daily basis.

Sure hope you spent some cash on that T350.

I recently dyno's my 1970 Cutlass W-31 for $450. Best $450 I spent on the car. The tuning got the a/f just right & now the car runs the best it can.

If you have a chance to dyno the car & tune it DO IT!!!!!!!!
Old Jun 12, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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I spent a good bit on the trans. It was built by a gm specialist in my area. What is a good cam to go with. I'm open to options and opinions on anything. Like I said I'm new to the game and I will appreciate any advice from anyone willing to give.
Old Jun 13, 2013 | 04:51 PM
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Try the 750 first, then go from there.
Old Jun 19, 2013 | 06:15 PM
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Your build is very close to what I have except I have 9.5 to 1 comp and running a 2004r trans with a 3000 stall converter and I run 12.20s at 108 as drivin on the street and long trips.
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