Again you’ve missed my point. Carry on though.

 

Help me understand, the dyno test with a 123 VE and a peak over 8000 RPM, are these the same engine? Every time I make a pass engine temp starts @ 120 degrees, thats the real world for me.

 

I can't speak to 123 VE efficiency just that he seams to have a loyal happy customer base. He has built a lot of Oldsmobile engines and I have yet to see or hear of any negative feedback.
I posted an example an NA Engine masters build that came off his dyno with the same operator and was validated on center stage.

Bill is not the only one who can build a stout Oldsmobile he just happens to be the one of the few willing to share what he has learned over the years. What I don't understand is why their is so much friction in the Oldsmobile performance camp. I have friends that are into Buick performance engines and they world ask me, why their is so much drama in the Olds camp. My response cant say .

 

The friction is coming from a insecure Chevy guy.

 

x2

 

This goes way back.
The reason I brought up the Buick racers is there does not seem to be this friction present in their community.
I have no problem with Mark or Mark calling Bill out or any other builder but call them up and ask the question straight up. A long time Olds racer left realoldspower because a self proclaimed Olds expert. The racer makes more passes in a year than the expert did in his whole life. He had a lot to offer the forum its one reason that the forum suffers today. I'm Glad both Marks are on Classic Oldsmobile they both have a lot to offer IMO. I have no problem with heated discussions it seams to be the nature of performance threads. Its a shame that there are some very good Oldsmobile engine builds that we will never learn from.
I know a NHRA class racer that raced a 71 442 W30 in stock, They had a engine built by a west coast Olds guru, the engine was a strong performer. When the engine failed they were not able to get a replacement. It took three seasons to get back to where they were. I remember guys chirping off that this guy or that guy was just a qualified to right a book on how to build a performance Oldsmobile engine.
I asked them why don't they, there response was it will never happen. Bill had the ***** to publish his engine building philosophy the only other person to do so produced a book of tales.

 

Probably because the Buick guys aren't posting dyno data like the one above.

 

Very secure here. I think I will call Bill Friday and see what he says. In the mean time when you get the "hiway star" running bring it on up to mid Texas, we can start with my NA 350 shop truck if, (and thats a big if) you can handle that we can move up from there.........be the hero

 

Did George Thompson build the engine you post about?

 

Weeeeeeeeeeee 😁

 

No it was not George, I'm sure he could have written a book on how to build a Oldsmobile class car that runs under the index. I know guys that are kicking themselves for not buying his car when it was for sale.

 

I've said many times here. I am not a drag track racer.

I like to drive almost flat out. From 1am to 6am on the interstates to get where I'm going. And sometimes street light to street light at the same hours. This is "Racing and High Performance" My build is on the Performance side. Which includes superior handling for my car. 70 Buick GS350(1 in 100 Hot out of the factory) that I drove at 16 was a straight line car. I wanted more and have much more. .

Yet, the only way you can function is to call everyone out to race. Nit-picky or criticizing something someone did, engine, dyno, build, whatever!

Out of your disease month! OH you don't race me! Must be something wrong! The other builder must of done something wrong!!!! Whine, whine whine. Your a Wendy whiner. And TROLL

You need more time learning your trade. And from only being an 97% good engine builder! Be a star, get to 100%. Hopefully it does not take you 40 years more to get there.

 

Ok, hi way driving, very serious engine you have there for hi way driving. I have a question: Are you expecting a power peak over or near 8000 RPM? Again I will say Travoto is one of the Olds builders I would recommend to someone wanting a Oldsmobile engine built such as yourself, but the dyno sheet you posted has some problems.

 

Thats all you have to say......how about you comment on that dyno data posted by hiwaystar

 

What's a dyno?

 

Dyno I posted is an old school engine Bill is refreshing for someone else.. Quote Bill '' it would go higher but I stopped. It had old school aluminum rods in it, and springs that I didn't pick out. It will go higher".

Just was showing how a SBO DX engine with the right parts.can go 8500+ rpm and maintain high HP to the end. Peak power is before 8000 rpm..

And yes, I have Bill building my rare HP DX block from Nascar days, with Batten heads. I guess you have had your head up your *** to notice that. As everything is all about you! Oh that right! You called my car an disgrace. You're such a dick!

.What do you care, what engine I have put in my car? I driven many different very high horsepower cars in my lifetime. Including some wild old school Hemi GTX, GTO, souped up Cuda Test drove a Hellcat and Tesla performance Y.

 

Danny Lattimore builds the fastest/quickest Olds stocker engines -PERIOD. Craig Couris had the first Olds stocker in the 10's with Danny power.

 

Thanks for posting this is what I was referring to, that there are many top notch engine builders.. Just to be clear I never said George was the fastest Olds class racer but his cars ran well under the index and he held class records multiple times. I would never say one was better than the other. I just don't know enough to even guess!

 

I think you might be right..............

 

You can't win on this thread, can you, the most pure intentions and you get nothing but blasted. I'am going to research this stock eliminator thing, is it George or Danny?


Well you decide:

George Thompson G/SA index 12.00 run 10.96 @ Pomona 1.04 under the index @ 1043 feet elevation
Danny Lattimore D/SA index 11.55 run 10.57 @ MIR 1.02 under the index @ 114 feet elevation

See this is what I mean by facts..........

 

Your right about one thing I haven't paid much attention. But I think your going to have just what you wanted with your engine build.

 

Man that is a more than funny! 😂😂 My ribs hurt.

 

Oh ****…I think it’s time for an engine masters style competition here 😎

Good idea? Keep it simple…factory iron heads to showcase the builders skills. Have a lift rule only on the cam so it’s not complicated to check.

Any cast aluminum single 4 intake …say a 750 max cfm carb? Let it rip 4500 to 7500 ?

small block or big block…if there are enough entrants have a big block and small block class.

small block 350 min and max bore +.065? Big block same at +.065” ?

headers rules are wide open

well?

 

Spec fuel…10.5 to 1

 

You need to start another thread, this is 440 DX pump gas build. You really need to start keep up with the group!

 

I already did

 

Did George make it through the barn?

 

ya, sorry for getting so far off topic with an olds engine topic

ill try my best to follow the group

 

Just messing with you

 

Yes he past tech.
I think he also ran at Indy.

 

Here are two more top notch engine builders, Dave is not with us anymore.
The Kost family knows how to build quick Olds engines that are well under the index they also have set the national record multi-pal times.
Dave smith also built and sponsored a stoker that set the national record multi-pal times.

 

Do you know the year when Couris ran the first 10"s?

 

1997 @ Orlando,Fl. Craig said that the car has been as quick as 10.46

 

Thanks for posting, does Dany Lattimore do his own stocker head work?
This is not a **** storm question their is no argument that he is a top shelf engine builder! Just curious, as their are two very popular head gurus, the problem is I can only recall one.
.

 

Yes he does his own head work.

 

Thanks for the reply.
Does Dany race a Oldsmobile?

 

Yes but not as much as in the past.

 

Cool! Is it a class car.

 

Danny raced stockers and I think Super Stockers.

 

it`s never about winning on a thread. It`s about facts. By the way 66-3x2 knows exactly what hes talking about.

Chad-nice build