Hello I’m new here. Doing a 403 upgrade.
It will run around 1500 rpm at 60 mph, depending on tire height, with the converter locked and 2.73 gears. Yeah, a converter In that range will help launch. My 2350 flash stall is rated at 2200 to 2500 rpm and works OK with 2.78 gears and the 2004R. I just went from 1 5/8" Sanderson shorties and 2.5" X pipe exhaust with Dynomax Superturbo. Now has 1 3/4" full length stainless headers, 2.5" stainless duals with Flowmaster stainless straight through FX mufflers.
The FX mufflers are OK, just slightly loud but not obnoxious. Only got a few miles on them, time will tell where they settle for sound. I am using that wideband Mark recommended, great for tuning a carb.
I’m trying to get away from the roaring noise inside the car. It has flowmasters I think maybe flowmaster 40. Where did you get the headers.
We have the 2006-2011 dodge charger mufflers on our 10th. They are longer than these below. Both are 2.5 offset.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-17734?rrec=true
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-17734?rrec=true
We have the 2006-2011 dodge charger mufflers on our 10th. They are longer than these below. Both are 2.5 offset.
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-17734?rrec=true
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/wlk-17734?rrec=true
I bought a set of the Chinese stainless full length headers. The passenger side fit perfect but the drivers side needed massaged to clear the motor mount. On tge later style mounts, it probably would have just cleared. Around the starter was very tight. Very well made but I think are all sold out.
I bought a set of the Chinese stainless full length headers. The passenger side fit perfect but the drivers side needed massaged to clear the motor mount. On tge later style mounts, it probably would have just cleared. Around the starter was very tight. Very well made but I think are all sold out.
I also will have a new $600 set of Sanderson coated shorties sitting on a shelf, that I will keep for a suitable 4x4 to Olds power. The larger oil filter also barely touched, so I lightly clamped it to clear. For $200, a person expects some issues. Gaining clearance everywhere for some HP and TQ is the trade off.
I also will have a new $600 set of Sanderson coated shorties sitting on a shelf, that I will keep for a suitable 4x4 to Olds power. The larger oil filter also barely touched, so I lightly clamped it to clear. For $200, a person expects some issues. Gaining clearance everywhere for some HP and TQ is the trade off.
Try a slightly shorter bolt. I had 3/4" long header bolt, in place of the 1" long ones with a 3/8" head, it just squeezed by on the drivers side. My headers came with Metric bolts. I thought they were 5/16" bolts till I tried using them on the Stainless headers on my Dakota. I used 10mm head, 3/8" bolts that came with my Dakota headers, which were supposed to be 5/16". They do look a touch shorter than the 1" long header bolts I have and just squeezed in on the passenger side back two. Pick up 3/8" head with 3/4" length header bolts if you want to install these in car. Others have used short studs for those bolts. Check mount and oil filter clearance along with the starter. I actually combined two mini starters, a Powermaster back block with a super compact Ebay Olds mini starter and the terminals still needed slight trimming to clear. Hopefully your set has more room for the starter.
Try a slightly shorter bolt. I had 3/4" long header bolt, in place of the 1" long ones with a 3/8" head, it just squeezed by on the drivers side. My headers came with Metric bolts. I thought they were 5/16" bolts till I tried using them on the Stainless headers on my Dakota. I used 10mm head, 3/8" bolts that came with my Dakota headers, which were supposed to be 5/16". They do look a touch shorter than the 1" long header bolts I have and just squeezed in on the passenger side back two. Pick up 3/8" head with 3/4" length header bolts if you want to install these in car. Others have used short studs for those bolts. Check mount and oil filter clearance along with the starter. I actually combined two mini starters, a Powermaster back block with a super compact Ebay Olds mini starter and the terminals still needed slight trimming to clear. Hopefully your set has more room for the starter.
Last edited by Tonyf; Mar 11, 2023 at 05:50 AM.
I’m fixing head to the parts store if that’s what you want to call them, nothing like when I sold parts(years ago). Check on bolts and studs.
I cranked the engine yesterday evening. Water pump gasket leaking, the new top hose got into the belt.
In the video you can see a little smoke when rev it up, engine is supposed to be fresh with about 800 miles on it. I’m checking it out before I pull the heads off to put the #4 on and new cam(top end upgrade).
it will not let me post video because file to big. I’ll post it olds performance on fb.
In the video you can see a little smoke when rev it up, engine is supposed to be fresh with about 800 miles on it. I’m checking it out before I pull the heads off to put the #4 on and new cam(top end upgrade).
it will not let me post video because file to big. I’ll post it olds performance on fb.
As Joe mentioned above, there are lots of header bolts that are smaller diameter and look like they would work. Here is what Summit has.
OLDSMOBILE - header bolts KEYWORD - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing
These are from Mr. Gasket and can be tightened with a socket or the allen head wrench that attached to a 3/8 drive ratchet.
Mr. Gasket 3420G Mr. Gasket Header Bolts - 3/8-16 x 3/4 Inch Hex & Socket Head - Black Oxide (holley.com)
OLDSMOBILE - header bolts KEYWORD - Free Shipping on Orders Over $99 at Summit Racing
These are from Mr. Gasket and can be tightened with a socket or the allen head wrench that attached to a 3/8 drive ratchet.
Mr. Gasket 3420G Mr. Gasket Header Bolts - 3/8-16 x 3/4 Inch Hex & Socket Head - Black Oxide (holley.com)
Last edited by redoldsman; Mar 12, 2023 at 10:53 AM.
Thanks everyone for all the advice.
the 3/4” header bolts worked on both sides. I thought about using them on the car but I’m not. There would no way to get them 2 bolts in if motor was in car. I learned some more words yesterday evening. Lol
the 3/4” header bolts worked on both sides. I thought about using them on the car but I’m not. There would no way to get them 2 bolts in if motor was in car. I learned some more words yesterday evening. Lol
I pulled plugs they were smutty except one was a little wet. I put the carb on from classic carburetor rebuilders on last night. Haven’t cranked it with that one on will this afternoon. The carb that I put on needs work.
If that motor hasn't run in a while, and you haven't swapped the heads yet, I wouldn't sweat the compression test. Could be a bit of rust on a valve face or seat, or dry cylinder wall. I'd run it with the old heads still on it, and then retest. The compression on #1 may come around.
I did air test on the cylinders #1 had blow by in crank case, the rest did good except a little air out of the exhaust, I don’t know the depth of pistons down in cylinders. Stock pistons. Maybe someone knows how much a stock pistons set down and some estimate on horse power with this build.
trying to figure which way to go if I got to pistons and rings.
Cam OL 270/274~10H, dur @050. int 219. exh 226 LI 491 W/1.6. LE 499 W/1.6. Performer intake quadrajet built, roller tip rockers, #4 heads. 2.07/1.625 valves. Planning on milling heads to around 60cc/61cc if that’s acceptable. Using felpro head gaskets.
trying to figure which way to go if I got to pistons and rings.
Cam OL 270/274~10H, dur @050. int 219. exh 226 LI 491 W/1.6. LE 499 W/1.6. Performer intake quadrajet built, roller tip rockers, #4 heads. 2.07/1.625 valves. Planning on milling heads to around 60cc/61cc if that’s acceptable. Using felpro head gaskets.
Hey guys I’m back with the motor I bought apartment, I found the compression issue on #1 it’s the ring and valve. The top ring is at 056 gap. I checked #7 top ring in that cylinder it was 026. #1 was at 056 in the others also.
it’s been bored 030 already, I’m going to take it to the machine shop so they can gauge the cylinders if it’ll be good to rering it.
I’m not sure about boring any larger being in a trans am.
if ok to bore:
regular 040 pistons with #4 heads or on 039 kb pistons with 4A heads?
im checking on a block to see if it’s standard or bored.
it’s been bored 030 already, I’m going to take it to the machine shop so they can gauge the cylinders if it’ll be good to rering it.
I’m not sure about boring any larger being in a trans am.
if ok to bore:
regular 040 pistons with #4 heads or on 039 kb pistons with 4A heads?
im checking on a block to see if it’s standard or bored.
If the block is at .030 probably at its end. .040 is possible as well as the .039 as its been done.
At this point you are in for a big bill. I do have a built 403 short block - just need to check on getting out of machine shop jail if interested or I’ll just keep it
At this point you are in for a big bill. I do have a built 403 short block - just need to check on getting out of machine shop jail if interested or I’ll just keep it
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