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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 11:05 AM
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I had an unproductive day at work where none of the machines would run worth a damn. I had lots of time to kill, to make the day go quicker I watched some Nicks Garage videos. I noticed whenever he would release the throttle, the hp numbers would spike. The video I first noticed it was a 455 Pontiac engine, the dyno would show a consistent 375ish, then briefly spike up past 400 when he let up on the throttle before dropping quickly.

Just curious, what’s going on here?
Old Jul 14, 2024 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by matt69olds
I had an unproductive day at work where none of the machines would run worth a damn. I had lots of time to kill, to make the day go quicker I watched some Nicks Garage videos. I noticed whenever he would release the throttle, the hp numbers would spike. The video I first noticed it was a 455 Pontiac engine, the dyno would show a consistent 375ish, then briefly spike up past 400 when he let up on the throttle before dropping quickly.
Just curious, what’s going on here?
First of all, just about anybody can find numerous mistakes/crap in virtually EVERY Nicks garage videos. He once did an FE Ford, found the rocker adjusting but had punched a hole in the valve cover, and he kept running it.
But there’s a lot going on there. It could just be the way the camera catches it, or that the brake may not have released totally yet.
Just look at the overall numbers, while throwing out the first and last ones, as they’re seldom correct.
Old Jul 14, 2024 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
First of all, just about anybody can find numerous mistakes/crap in virtually EVERY Nicks garage videos. He once did an FE Ford, found the rocker adjusting but had punched a hole in the valve cover, and he kept running it.
But there’s a lot going on there. It could just be the way the camera catches it, or that the brake may not have released totally yet.
Just look at the overall numbers, while throwing out the first and last ones, as they’re seldom correct.
More lying from you to trash another builder.

I know the video of the 427 FE you’re talking about. It was a customers engine that Nick had nothing to do with besides doing some pulls. After running it for the first time to warm it up he heard some noise and found the adjusters where hitting the cover baffles

he removed both valve covers to clearance the area where there was contact. He reinstalled them to do the first pull. he did not keep running it. the video is there for anyone to see.

here. The damage and the fix to continue with the first pull. You’ll also notice none of the data from his pulls need the first and last pull thrown out..they are not goofy and messed up.

while your at it trashing Nick again. tell us about that 350 W31 build he did that you said there was so much wrong, you couldn’t go into it? It made excellent power and TQ. yet you couldn’t say what was wrong with it?








Old Jul 14, 2024 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by matt69olds
I had an unproductive day at work where none of the machines would run worth a damn. I had lots of time to kill, to make the day go quicker I watched some Nicks Garage videos. I noticed whenever he would release the throttle, the hp numbers would spike. The video I first noticed it was a 455 Pontiac engine, the dyno would show a consistent 375ish, then briefly spike up past 400 when he let up on the throttle before dropping quickly.

Just curious, what’s going on here?
what your seeing is the dyno brake unloading as the throttle is pulled back. it takes a split second for it recover as the TQ from the engine is throttled back.

Those spikes don’t get printed on Nicks corrected data because he has his data acquisition dialled in ..there is no need to throw out the low or high numbers on that super flow.


Old Jul 15, 2024 | 04:55 AM
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I’m not going to continue to argue with you Dale.
All I’ll say is the video I saw on the FE, he simply reinstalled the valve covers. Maybe it was an edited version? I don’t know.
And I know all about the W31 build. It was actually previously owned by someone on here. He contacted me to tell me all about it.

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Old Jul 15, 2024 | 05:49 AM
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There is no need to call a fellow member a liar outright without knowing all the circumstances of the situation, especially at first observance.
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 08:46 AM
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There is no need to call a fellow member a liar outright without knowing all the circumstances of the situation, especially at first observance.
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Old Jul 15, 2024 | 10:01 AM
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I've noticed the same Matt, definitely watch his videos intently at those moments.

Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
what your seeing is the dyno brake unloading as the throttle is pulled back. it takes a split second for it recover as the TQ from the engine is throttled back.
Thank you for the response. Makes sense.
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
I’m not going to continue to argue with you Dale.
All I’ll say is the video I saw on the FE, he simply reinstalled the valve covers. Maybe it was an edited version? I don’t know.
And I know all about the W31 build. It was actually previously owned by someone on here. He contacted me to tell me all about it.
no again…that video was never edited. don’t make up stories.

and also no on that small block build Nick did that you trashed. It was built by Nick and the guy who owns it’s is from Quebec Canada. I can post the video and your comments ..if you forgot
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by HighwayStar 442
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a liar is a liar…prove me wrong about what I said is a lie and I’ll apologize. I know the circumstances exactly. it didn’t punch a hole(it was contacting the baffle)in the valve cover and he didn’t continue to run it..it is a lie

watch the Video yourself,, and no, it wasn’t edited. Mark views Nick as a threat for some reason. He’s commented many times and outright lied and trashed him….

you can continue to defend this guy…he’s a phony.


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Old Jul 15, 2024 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by 69CSHC
I've noticed the same Matt, definitely watch his videos intently at those moments.



Thank you for the response. Makes sense.
what you could also be seeing displayed real time on the monitor is uncorrected. some displays show both. The corrected data is what you need to look at
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 12:27 PM
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Mark views Nick as a threat for some reason. He’s commented many times and outright lied and trashed him.
Quit putting words in my mouth, I don’t regard him, or you, as any “threat” at all.
If you watch his videos, he does some stuff that’ll make anybody scratch their head. And Wtf have I ever done to you?
Btw, our mutual friend Greg F., says the same, you throw out the first and last number if you want to be the most accurate. And he has the same dyno Nick does. Just sayin.
Have a nice day.
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
a liar is a liar…prove me wrong about what I said is a lie and I’ll apologize. I know the circumstances exactly. it didn’t punch a hole(it was contacting the baffle)in the valve cover and he didn’t continue to run it..it is a lie

watch the Video yourself,, and no, it wasn’t edited. Mark views Nick as a threat for some reason. He’s commented many times and outright lied and trashed him….

you can continue to defend this guy…he’s a phony.
You have attacked me and many others. I think you have insecurities. I have no doubt you have Oldsmobile engine build skills. It's the way you go about things. You were never on my list of five builders. To build my engine.
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 03:34 PM
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You have attacked me and many others. I think you have insecurities. I have no doubt you have Oldsmobile engine build skills. It's the way you go about things. You were never on my list of five builders. To build my engine.
you are not a victim 😂😂
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 03:41 PM
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Quit putting words in my mouth, I don’t regard him, or you, as any “threat” at all.
If you watch his videos, he does some stuff that’ll make anybody scratch their head. And Wtf have I ever done to you?
Btw, our mutual friend Greg F., says the same, you throw out the first and last number if you want to be the most accurate. And he has the same dyno Nick does. Just sayin.
Have a nice day.
You bs’d about what he did with the FE. I’m not putting words in anyone’s mouth. you bs’d about what he did. anyone can watch the video.

I’ve had a few of my engines on Greg’s dyno during REC . None of them needed to have low or high pulls thrown out during the competition.

what you dont realize is the pull range is the range. the data is correct from beginning to end…it only prints out corrected data in the pull range

same as the engine masters…the pull range of the pull is corrected. that’s what you get as your score. The before and after don’t mean anything and you don’t “throw it out”

do you need me to post them? I’ve got probably 30 plus sheets

Old Jul 15, 2024 | 03:47 PM
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Someone needs to learn how to pull from a low rpm so they don’t need to “throw out” anything 😂

pulling a street engine from mid 3,500 and throwing out the first and last few is bs
Old Jul 15, 2024 | 09:47 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 06:24 AM
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I like Nick's garage, the more I watch it. Probably him being a Greek from Quebec with some personality. He isn't perfect, seems to know Dodge the best. Helps he runs all different makes, not just 1000 sbc or ls dyno videos. It seems everybody has different ideas on dyno runs. I think the best comparison on dyno runs on here are the two 358 builds, Rogue Ryder and Skyhigh's dyno runs. Both have 9.7 to 1 compression, reasonably similar cam duration and lift numbers and similar peak numbers but Skyhigh's had much better low rpm torque. I know Dale said 10 to 1 minimum compression but he still hit good low rpm torque numbers with less. Is the difference the cam or the small 670 cfm carb on Rogue Ryder's or something else like Rogue Ryder opening up the rpm to match the Speedmaster intake port? Their out of box numbers for Procomp have convinced me to get a bare set, next time they are on sale to send to Mark for his guy to go through and mill them, not waiting two plus years for a machine shop up here. I will believe I would have 400 HP and 450 TQ with a tickle less compression and 10 degrees intake and 15 degrees exhaust duration. It may not but as long as our cars put a smile on faces is all that counts.
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Bernhard I GOT YOUR BROWN NOSER ARE HERE!!! Like I care what you or anyone thinks. Come say that to my face!

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