Wanted-66/67 442 3 Speed Dearborn Driveshaft

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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 09:07 PM
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Wanted-66/67 442 3 Speed Dearborn Driveshaft

We need a driveshaft with the yoke for a 66/67 442 with the Dearborn/Ford transmission. This same trans & driveshaft was used in a Cutlass with a floor mounted shifter. The driveshaft is different from the regular Saginaw transmission. Please contact me @ pchopesq@aol.com

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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 05:00 AM
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When I put a 3speed in my wagon I had difficulty finding a yoke but a member here supplied one when I advertised. The yoke went right on to the original Auto driveshaft. Before i found the yoke I talked to a Ford guy who said he probably could supply the correct yoke but never had to go that far. Just an fyi.
Old Apr 22, 2022 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldsmaniac
When I put a 3speed in my wagon I had difficulty finding a yoke but a member here supplied one when I advertised. The yoke went right on to the original Auto driveshaft. Before i found the yoke I talked to a Ford guy who said he probably could supply the correct yoke but never had to go that far. Just an fyi.
OK,good info. Was your wagon a VC or flat roof? We know the yoke is different,has to be the Phord unit. We are also unsure about the drive shaft length. Any idea on the length versus a standard shift?
Old Apr 22, 2022 | 08:22 AM
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Mike, I don't know if this will help but I bought my '68 Cutlass from the original owner (35,000 miles). It had a 350 2-bbl. with a 3-speed on the floor. I rebuilt a M20, out of a wrecked '67 442, and replaced the Dearborn unit. My oem driveshaft yoke wouldn't fit, so I swapped the one from the '67 onto my driveshaft and it worked perfectly.
Old Apr 22, 2022 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN269V
Mike, I don't know if this will help but I bought my '68 Cutlass from the original owner (35,000 miles). It had a 350 2-bbl. with a 3-speed on the floor. I rebuilt a M20, out of a wrecked '67 442, and replaced the Dearborn unit. My oem driveshaft yoke wouldn't fit, so I swapped the one from the '67 onto my driveshaft and it worked perfectly.
Yes that would be correct. If you got a 3 speed floor mounted shift you got the Dearborn mid 65 thjru 69. Do you remember if the clutch spline count was the same Dearborn to Muncie? That info really helps & thanks much.

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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 02:30 PM
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........Do you remember if the clutch spline count was the same Dearborn to Muncie?......
Mike, yes the Ford trans was set up for use in GM cars. I believe that they even rotated the mounting bolt pattern from the one for Fords. I say that because I had a customer with a '69 442, that his dad bought brand new, that wanted to put a Ford top loader 4-speed into. He reasoned that because it came from the factory with a Ford 3-speed, that it should take a Ford 4-speed.
When I installed it onto his Olds factory aluminum bellhousing, which of course had the Dearborn and GM bolt pattern, the transmission was rotated counterclockwise, as viewed from the rear. I still couldn't convince him that he needed a Muncie, so I had to fabricate a wedge to attach the trans mount to the crossmember and heat and bend the shifter handle.
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Originally Posted by ROCKETMAN269V
Mike, yes the Ford trans was set up for use in GM cars. I believe that they even rotated the mounting bolt pattern from the one for Fords. I say that because I had a customer with a '69 442, that his dad bought brand new, that wanted to put a Ford top loader 4-speed into. He reasoned that because it came from the factory with a Ford 3-speed, that it should take a Ford 4-speed.
When I installed it onto his Olds factory aluminum bellhousing, which of course had the Dearborn and GM bolt pattern, the transmission was rotated counterclockwise, as viewed from the rear. I still couldn't convince him that he needed a Muncie, so I had to fabricate a wedge to attach the trans mount to the crossmember and heat and bend the shifter handle.
Sounds like it was fun.
Old Apr 22, 2022 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
OK,good info. Was your wagon a VC or flat roof? We know the yoke is different,has to be the Phord unit. We are also unsure about the drive shaft length. Any idea on the length versus a standard shift?
Car is a flattop wagon 1967. Originally a Jetaway, yoke went right on and d shaft length ok. 10 spline just like a early Muncie for disc.
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Mike —Just to widen your search, Buicks used the same Dearborn set up in 3 speed floor shifted A bodies 67-69. I think it was 70 that Buicks changed to the 3 speed cast iron Muncies.
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Originally Posted by Tri-Carb
Mike —Just to widen your search, Buicks used the same Dearborn set up in 3 speed floor shifted A bodies 67-69. I think it was 70 that Buicks changed to the 3 speed cast iron Muncies.
Yes and so did Pontiacs. Thanks
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