wim lesabre59

Help, the left rear axle is broken, can anyone help me with another one?? It has to be shipped to The Netherlands.
It is for my 1964 Jetstar 88 convertible.

Thanks

Wim

59-59-59

Look at Fabcraft metal works if nobody comes through for you. They make these rear end parts new

wim lesabre59

thanks, I have sent them an email, maybe I am lucky...

aliensatemybuick

I htink you are going to need to find someone parting a '64 J88.

Here's one guy, but it was a bit more than a year ago:

http://forums.aaca.org/f137/1964-old...ts-301295.html

His E-mail is MARTINOS1@COMCAST.NET

Good luck!

wim lesabre59

no luck so far.... make a new one costs me about 1800 dollar...
anyone suggestions???

copper128

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...terchange.html

aliensatemybuick

But the bottom line of that entire thread is there IS no interchange, so he's back to finding one from a '64 J88 parts car.

copper128

Maybe Scott, but I'm still unconvinced.
I'd like to see the dimensions of someones actual '64 J88 shaft compared to the Yukon Gear replacement shaft I linked to. Remember, that is a overlength cut-to-fit shaft, so if the spline end and bearing end dimensons are correct, it should work.

copper128

GM Sports Salvage shows a '64 J88 in inventory:
http://gmsportssalvage.com/?q=node/1408

wim lesabre59

Thanks for the reply's, I just called gmsportssalvage but they only want to sell the complete rearend which is a bit expensive to ship...
So I will look further, any suggestions are still welcome.

Wim

11971four4two

Hi sorry I just read all posts in the other thread and 64 is different than the 65 axles I found

I talked to jetstarman he has 3 complete jetstar rear axles all were removed from 1965 model year. He is not sure if they are the same as 1964 jetstar axles.
If you find they are the same or interchange.
He will sell you an axle

wim lesabre59

I have no luck, contacted gmsportssalvage and they are willing to sell me the comlete rearend, but it seems now they sold the axle about a month ago... so I still don't have a new axle

Is there someone with a Jetstar 88 partscar who can help me??

Thanks again..

copper128

Wim, I'd suggest you pull the good axle shaft then call Yukon gear and ask about this part: http://www.yukongear.com/ProductDeta...px?ProdID=1429
Hopefully they can tell you what to measure (or get a machinist to measure) to determine if their part can be made to work for you. We already know the Jetstar rearend is basically a Pontiac 8.2" 10-bolt. What we need to determine is if the bearing end dimensions are the same as other (F-85/Cutlass) 8.2 10-bolts and if the length of the cut-to-fit axle shaft is sufficient for the Jetstar housing.

bdub217

What about pulling your old one and take it to a machinist to copy it - Couldn't be more than having an axle shipped overseas.


EDIT: Just read entire thread - copper128, I'm saying get a piece of stock axle with no slots or anything it and have it milled to specs.

GStage1

Local yard here has 64 Olds 88...see pics...will it work?

Email me direct

GStage1@BuickPerformanceClub.com

Don't know if I can ship the axle US Postal Service or not.

aliensatemybuick

From the fender script, it looks like that's a Dynamic 88; if so, unfortunately it won't work.

11971four4two

Is there any way a 65 jetstar axle could be worked in?
jetstarman has 3 complete rear axles

Ozzie

The Hollander interchange book shows no interchange for the axle shaft (with bearing) on the 1964 Oldsmobile Jetstar 88. It shows 28 splines and a length of 30.75 inches from the outside face of the flange to the end of the spline. The right side axle and the left are the same. The original part number was 394005. The cost of the axle and bearing in 1968 was US$23.60. The only possible used source which I can find in North America is East West Auto Parts, Inc., in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It is only a "maybe" as his listing shows an axle for Jetstar. It doesn't say "Jetstar 88" or "Jetstar I". His stock number is 307764. He has a website. When I searched on his website, I couldn't find the listing for the axle or the car. The website address is: https://www.eastwestautoparts.com/
Perhaps you could e-mail or call him for a verification. If he should have both axles, if the price is reasonable, and you plan to keep the car, it might be good to buy both.

wim lesabre59

Thanks for all the tips, I have just send eastwestautoparts a mail for the axle. DVAP seems to have the axles but they won't sell it to me because it must be send overseas.
Several other yards don't have this axle, so far no luck, but I keep looking and I found another local machinery to make the axle, but I must visit them for a price... who knows??

Wim

Ozzie

Some companies in the USA have this policy about shipping out of the country because of added costs, customs, and trouble with the postal service in the other country (rules, incompetence, and thieves). Some have even refused to ship to Canada, which seems a bit extreme to me. Usually, shipping to countries in northern Europe is not a problem. Shipping to Italy and some of the countries in southern or eastern Europe can have problems. So some companies just make a policy to ship only within the USA. But it can be overcome. If it comes out that the ONLY way to get the axle is from a company in the USA, you can get the company to ship to someone in the USA, and then have that person re-ship to you. It is more trouble and expense, but it will work. The other problem is the shipping cost. Axles are heavy. Airfreight prices are high. You may have to ship by surface mail (on ships, trains, or trucks) to reduce the cost. That will cost less, but will require more time. Best wishes.

wim lesabre59

this is how it is.... one good and one broken.. and I still don't have a new one... I am now trying local machinery, maybe they can reproduce one for a reasonable price..

It seems that during the restoration a few years ago there has been some welding at the axles because the bearings did'nt fit, that could be the reason why the axle is broken now..

Ozzie

Your photos and explanation have revealed the reason for the breakage. With normal loading and usage it is not common for the axle to break. The axle bearing is normally a "press fit" on the axle. It is removed and installed with a hydraulic press, and often has a retaining collar (ring) to hold it in position. The axle and bearing rely on the hardness of the steel to perform satisfactorily. Any welding (or heating) will change the metal's characteristics in the axle (and bearing) and will often lead to a failure. The Oldsmobile Service Manual (1964) for your car describes, with photos, the proper procedure for changing the axle bearings. Some lessons in my life have been expensive. This will probably be one for you. Best wishes.

Octania

Tough model to find
big car body with small car engine, brakes, rear end parts

Did I not mention that I have about 50 parts Oldsmobiles?

Believe it or not, that model is among my parts cars. It lost its front suspension and the body is rotted beyond any possible saving. It can donate an axle or 2 to you. I'd suggest buying both of them. Shipping will be expensive but not $1800 expensive. It will take me some time, as I have a real job all day every weekday, and family time also.

So, try an email [NOT a message here] to RocketScience442@hotmail.com with a specific and succinct subject, so it does not get tossed as spam/ scam of which I get about 30 a day... and we'll get you all squared away. We can discuss costs and condition and such privately. A nominal deposit by paypal to "rocketette@hotmail.com" will get the ball rolling. Notice the _different_ paypal eddress.

No Worries.

unless I pull the axles only to find a problem. You get your deposit back if I can't deliver a serviceable part. I keep it if you back out of the deal, for my efforts and expenses.

copper128

There you go Wim.
You can trust Chris (Octania). He's been doing right by Olds guys for a long time.

Octania

Axles getting extracted today or tomorrow.

Octania

Perhaps I should get the bearings and ship those as well. A little investigation in the PN manual and Rockauto.com reveals:
.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
BEARING [with retainer]
Gr. 5.855, PN 907682
64-65 J88
67 5200 (Delmont 88 [330 engine big car body, like 64-66 Jetstar 88])
64-69 F85 exc. V.C. or C type (Canadian built with C-Clip Axle)
Cross ref PN's: 391743 , 907484 , 907664 , 907682 ...

National RW507CR $20, 1.378" x 2.747" x 1.306" wide
SKF RW507CR $26
Timken 514003 $23
.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
BOLT, Rear Wheel and Brake Drum to Axle Shaft Flange
Gr. 5.812, PN 1235136
7/16-20 x 1.5 L, 0.472 knurl, 11/32" Shoulder Length
64-66 V.C. & J88;
67-72 F85 exc. Canadian [C type Clip Axle]
Cross Refs: 2070158 , 3230413 , 3775682 , 3775683 , 3775684 , 3784976 , 3819518 , 3851677 , 388125 , 3980406 , 6101861 , 8124584 , 9590259 , 9590271 , 98026 , 980261 , 9934167 , J3230413 , J8124584
Dirt Cheap
.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
SHAFT [LH=RH]
Gr. 5.420, PN 394005
64 J88 [no other applications for this PN]
.++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

wim lesabre59

yes!! today I received another axle, thanks to Chris.... at the end of the week it goes under the car and drive! (I hope)

Wim

citcapp

Great job Chris, Now that's what I call hands across the sea

wim lesabre59

back on his wheels.... the coming winter looking for a new axle for the right side... it's also welded... risky...

thanks Chris and anyone else for the tips and the help..

Wim

Bill Piper

Hello Wim, I'm an English guy, now living in Nortern France. I have a 1965 Jetstar 88 convertible. My right side axle has just broken. Can't find one. Did you hear of any 1965 axles when you were searching for yours?


Many thanks, Bill.

wim lesabre59

Hi Bill, read the threat I think someone is referring to someone with 1965 Jetstars... Goodluck with your search

Wim

Ozzie

Hollander interchange says that 1965 Jetstar 88 rear axle shaft will interchange with 1966 Jetstar 88, but with no others. The left and right axles are the same. The original part number was 393056.

Ozzie

This place claims to have them from a 1966 Jetstar 88 @ US$100 each.

A to Z Auto Parts; Springlake, Michigan; USA; (It is south of Muskegon and west of Grand Rapids; close to Lake Michigan) Telephone: 231-798-2111.
They are open Monday-Friday: 9 A.M. - 5 P.M.; and Saturday: 10 A.M. - 1 P.M. USA Eastern time zone.

Be sure to "shop around". There may be others available.