Frame mounts for 1985 Cutlass with 307

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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 06:22 PM
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Question Frame mounts for 1985 Cutlass with 307

Hey folks, I'm swapping a 350 SBO into an '85 Monte Carlo and I need those lower mounts for the front subframe, anybody got a pair laying around with decent rubber? I could maybe use the upper ones too if you have them.

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Old Jul 16, 2018 | 08:51 PM
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lower olds mounts don't have rubber. they are all steel and the engine mounts have the rubber. use small block olds engine mount with small block olds frame mounts. sorry, I sold my last set.
Old Jul 17, 2018 | 02:15 AM
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whoops, yes, I realized that earlier, but yeah I still need the lower metal ones to make my project work
Old Jul 17, 2018 | 03:52 AM
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the trans ams with 403 olds engine used rubber mounts on the chassis and metal brackets bolted to the engine.i think i have both kinds but wont have time to look very soon.
Old Jul 17, 2018 | 04:15 AM
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I have one, don't know what happened to the mate.

If that will help let me know.

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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 04:25 AM
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350 frame mounts.

I have this set pulled from a 69 Cutlass S if interested.
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Old Jul 17, 2018 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
I have this set pulled from a 69 Cutlass S if interested.

Those are not correct for a G-body. The G-body mounts look like this (and use the 2328 motor mounts). FYI, those same frame mounts were used on the B/C body cars with Olds 307 motors. Note that they are RH/LH, as the upper bolt is offset.



Old Jul 17, 2018 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by jcdynamic88
the trans ams with 403 olds engine used rubber mounts on the chassis and metal brackets bolted to the engine.i think i have both kinds but wont have time to look very soon.
This was very confusing to me when I figured out they were different. I pulled a bunch of hardware from my 1977 R-code Firebird and it uses metal upper mounts that bolt to a rail on the side of the block. My 1970 350 block has provisions for both mounting types. Obviously that's not the style for a 307 G body
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 04:54 AM
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I have done the exact same swap. It raised a few eyebrows when the hood was opened.
I have the frame mounts as pictured by Joe Padavano. The are rusty but should clean nicely. Let me know.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by shoehorn_hands
My 1970 350 block has provisions for both mounting types.

Every single 1964-1990 Olds V8 block has the same three motor mount bolt holes on each side of the block. The front two holes are used for 1964-1970 full size and 1973-74 Omegas (the rear steer cars). The rear two are used for all other Oldsmobiles. The T/A brackets were designed to pick up all three bolt holes since the position of the frame mount is halfway between the two "normal" Olds mount positions. Interestingly, the Sevilles with the EFI Olds 350 and the 1980s Fleetwoods with the Olds 307 used block brackets like the T/A (but not exactly the same) and the Chevy-style clamshell frame mounts. Why Caddy did this when Olds used the same chassis with conventional mounts is a mystery. The Olds diesel motors also used a similar strap on the driver's side only since that motor mount needed to be offset forward to clear the larger diesel starter.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by oldsthunder
I have done the exact same swap. It raised a few eyebrows when the hood was opened.
I have the frame mounts as pictured by Joe Padavano. The are rusty but should clean nicely. Let me know.
That sounds great, I have a potential seller on Facebook but I think he's going to be flaky about it and I need them sooner than later. PM me?

And yeah, I definitely wanted to do an attention-catching build, and since a lot of people are LS-swapping classic Olds cars I figured dropping an SBO in a Chevy could turn that trend on its head and raise some eyebrows.
Old Jul 18, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Every single 1964-1990 Olds V8 block has the same three motor mount bolt holes on each side of the block. The front two holes are used for 1964-1970 full size and 1973-74 Omegas (the rear steer cars). The rear two are used for all other Oldsmobiles. The T/A brackets were designed to pick up all three bolt holes since the position of the frame mount is halfway between the two "normal" Olds mount positions. Interestingly, the Sevilles with the EFI Olds 350 and the 1980s Fleetwoods with the Olds 307 used block brackets like the T/A (but not exactly the same) and the Chevy-style clamshell frame mounts. Why Caddy did this when Olds used the same chassis with conventional mounts is a mystery. The Olds diesel motors also used a similar strap on the driver's side only since that motor mount needed to be offset forward to clear the larger diesel starter.
Thanks for the info Joe, very interesting for sure. This project forces me to learn something new every day.
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