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Old February 13th, 2020 | 09:37 AM
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1970 455 1108389 HT Starter

Looking for a 1970 455 HT starter with 1108389 numbers. Thanks.
Old February 13th, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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Look here https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-OLDSMO...EAAOSwMHtbgG~P
Old February 13th, 2020 | 03:55 PM
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I'll check on my starter parts. Will you take just the black case with the right numbers ?
Old February 13th, 2020 | 04:28 PM
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Yes I will Gerald - thank you.
Old February 13th, 2020 | 08:58 PM
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I will check on Friday.
Old February 14th, 2020 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tdhill01
That one doesn't appear to be a HIGH TORQUE starter.
Old February 14th, 2020 | 03:52 AM
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Starter I D

All th good ones hav this notch as opposed to a hole drilled through case...this is low torque sbc corvette so only 1 lead ....big dogs get 2
Im in need of 1108392 ,or 1108354....if any available
Old February 14th, 2020 | 04:08 AM
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all the good cases have this notch , as opposed to a hole drilled through the case this one is a sbc...vette..low torque so only 1 lead...big dogs get two if anyone has 1108392 or at 1108354 available I need those
Old February 14th, 2020 | 09:21 AM
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I think I need some help or guidance here please. I am looking for a starter for a 1970 442. 4-speed car. Is the correct starter number for this car 1108389 ? Are all starters stamped 1108389 High Torque starters ? Are there differences between automatic and 4-speed starters ? Thank you. Maybe the guide that I am using has the wrong information ?
Old February 14th, 2020 | 09:23 AM
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Old February 14th, 2020 | 01:58 PM
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All 1108387&389 starters are high torque as long as they have two leads & coresponding windings in th case
both will be th top notch starter case previously pictured
Main diffrence for manual tranz is th cast iron nose , as opposed to th aluminum nose for auto tranz setup..
In middle of compiling starter / alternator database but hav yet to finnish th 70-73 portion
But should be able to determine exact # needed here shortly

both '387s pix from starter inventory
For most part Delco Remy high torque starters w/...Top Notch case are all the same internally...th triple 3 H/O units &'348s are all I'm aware that Octainia was ever conserned with but th '252 toro unit...same thing..diffrent #...& of course diffrent nose cone...at least 10 diffrent noses all interchangable...my 70 c50 w/292 had th tripple 3 H/O starter on it for a while
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Old February 14th, 2020 | 03:54 PM
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Is this information correct ?
Old February 14th, 2020 | 04:05 PM
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Old February 14th, 2020 | 07:53 PM
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Correct Indeed

The opt. May vary well b W-30 th one man I heard back from says his 71 W-30 is a 387...so until an explination shows up , both them are exactly th right starter....doubles your chances of getting right one
Old February 15th, 2020 | 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by rocketscientis
.........Main diffrence for manual tranz is th cast iron nose ..........
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I've never seen a cast iron nose on a rear wheel drive Oldsmobile.
Old February 15th, 2020 | 08:32 AM
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Early 60's and back had cast housings. Also some diesel had cast hsgs. Definitely none for the needed app. Me thinks the sceintis is looking to sell his wares. I guess I can't blame him for that. He seems a bit pricey and hard to understand what he types.
Old February 15th, 2020 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by stellar
............... sceintis is.....hard to understand what he types.
You're being too kind!
Old February 15th, 2020 | 09:30 AM
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If he is , he need not b
hav thick skin & a txtin impedimemt
Stellar is ALWAYS correct in his knowledge & expertise with most , but especially Electronics
however this happens so rarely set this could very well be the only time and I must point it out ...I don't believe I have what oh boy needs other than some advice

not going to say that you're actually in fact wrong about peddling Waresjust can't sell what I ain't got & I know that sounds strange
mostly because it's untrue
I sell other peoples stuff all the time
not at all prejudice who owns it if somebody needs it
and although maybe I'm a little off on the one dead nuts and the fact that I'm high cause I just put joint out
on account of only once being paid morning than asking price
I find it difficult get more than I ask for something however a little jewroom on an items value allows them great bargainers to be pretty sure they got a good deal and I come in near what I wanted for it anyway.....tell people all the time this stuff is less expensive by the th dozen...& stellar . . , whats the reason for '397/'389 multiple choice 442 starters ???


Old February 15th, 2020 | 10:24 AM
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I am NOT always correct, but I try.
I guess the joint explains why I have difficulty understanding your posts.
My books show the 389 for the 1970 and the 387 for 71 and 72.. My books are not always correct either.
They are both hi torque starters and have often been interchanged when being replaced.
They also have a different field winding.
Old February 15th, 2020 | 10:50 PM
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Old February 15th, 2020 | 11:15 PM
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Thank you. Is there an automatic or 4 - speed difference ?
Old February 16th, 2020 | 05:09 AM
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Not that I am aware of. I'm curious as to how many points would be deducted for an incorrect starter.
Old February 16th, 2020 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stellar
Not that I am aware of. I'm curious as to how many points would be deducted for an incorrect starter.
All of them

Won't happen at an OCA event b/c they don't get under the cars to check things like that. MAYBE at a show like MCACN in Chicago but again, depends how skinny and/or motivated the judge(s) may be to get under there that far and try and look. I don't remember the points deduction for MCACN....it may only be 1 point.
Old February 17th, 2020 | 11:20 AM
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In 1970 the 1108387 was used on the 350CI high compression motors.
The 1108389 was used on all 455CI in 1970, Standard or Auto.
The 1108387 was also used on all 455CI in 1971-72.
All Olds starters had the Machined hole for the starter bracket.
The starter on the Ebay ad is not a 1108389, as others have pointed out. It is also missing the machined tapped hole.
Hope this helps.
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