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Old December 26th, 2015, 02:30 PM
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1968 oldsmobile cutlass / 442 assembly Manual

I need an original assembly manula for this year anyone got one. I am in Ontario Canada. text or call or email 416 220 2064. Please and thanks.
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
I need an original assembly manula for this year anyone got one. I am in Ontario Canada. text or call or email 416 220 2064. Please and thanks.
Why, yes, anyone does have this item

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLDSMOBILE-1...VMr5tA&vxp=mtr

maybe try Amazon as well....

"1968 442 manual" found this right away
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Those are all reprints Octania. I want an original
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
Those are all reprints Octania. I want an original


Good luck with the search. I have never seen an original 68 Assembly Manual. There are others that have more pages than I do but none of us have even seen a complete one. I'd try contacting wmachine on here. When I was looking for a missing page he had it. He's the only person I've ever talked to that has more than just the general Assembly Manual that available electronically everywhere.
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wild about cars online has one, but I don't know how "complete" it is. I think it's the better one, but I haven't looked at it in a while
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Can it be downloaded. I thought it was only for 69 and up not 68. Any chance you can you send me a link please. Not the greatest at computer stuff.
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
Those are all reprints Octania. I want an original

Oh I must have missed that requirement.

When you find that source, please share such info. I have what appears to be a 10th generation re-copy with missing pages. Much better than what I had before, which was nothing at all.
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
Can it be downloaded. I thought it was only for 69 and up not 68. Any chance you can you send me a link please. Not the greatest at computer stuff.
http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/cgi-bin/globaltemplate.cgi?id=8

I downloaded it back when it was free. Generally it has everything you need to assemble the car except what was done at Fisher Body. There are very few things that I haven't found and I used it to completely assemble my car in a nut and bolt, frame off, restoration
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The wild about cars '68 version is missing a lot of the Chapter 6 engine details compared to the '69 manual I have. I've used the '69 version as an occasional reference when trying to figure out engine parts. Other than that it's pretty good.
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Originally Posted by 83hurstguy
The wild about cars '68 version is missing a lot of the Chapter 6 engine details compared to the '69 manual I have. I've used the '69 version as an occasional reference when trying to figure out engine parts. Other than that it's pretty good.

I emailed him the 68 Assembly Manual from WAC. He was specfically looking for the placement of the fender numerals for the W36 option which, of, course, the assembly manual doesn't have. So I sent him the "Seven Springs" fender pictures.
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
He was specfically looking for the placement of the fender numerals for the W36 option
What a shock...

Are there ANY 1968 442s left that DON'T have W-36 stripes????
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
What a shock...

Are there ANY 1968 442s left that DON'T have W-36 stripes????

At least he was making a solid attempt to put them in the right place. You should see all the Facebook yahoo's that insist that the factory installed the stripe in either location. They use this promo photo from Wild About Cars as "evidence" that the factory installed them that way:





I don't know when W30's started production but the original order forms didn't even have the W30 option code on them. These early promo photo's were probably taken long before the 68 model was in production. The release date of this photo was 9/11/67

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The Black and White photo from the last post. Is it an original photograph or a just a download off the net? I have one of the same car different angle, with a lansing stamp on the back of the photo. Is it worth anything?
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Originally Posted by ben442
The Black and White photo from the last post. Is it an original photograph or a just a download off the net? I have one of the same car different angle, with a lansing stamp on the back of the photo. Is it worth anything?
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From WAC


Here's another one:


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6-aught plate and fwd placed stripes

what more proof do you need?

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Here is that photo with the stamp on the back, worth framing.
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Originally Posted by ben442
Here is that photo with the stamp on the back, worth framing.

Interesting that the stripe is mysteriously in the correct location on this photo


Here's the almost same photo from WAC. I'm sure these were probably promotional literature that were available from GM



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Hey mine is called the Y70 option stripe. It that different?
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
Hey mine is called the Y70 option stripe. It that different?
Y70 is the pinstripe that's runs just below the peak molding trim. Different stripe.
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anyone have a picture of this Y70 option? Please.
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
anyone have a picture of this Y70 option? Please.
If you do a search here there are a number of threads on it.
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Thanks found it. I like the side stripe better but now I think the numbers are not in the right place on my car. I believe they positioned the numbers in a different location for cars that did not have the W30 option which I am now understanding is the option code for the side rally stripe. Hmm new at this Olds stuff. Dilema for sure now. Should I put the rally stripe on or not. Gotta measure the location of the numbers tomorrow to see what I can do. Thanks all.
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
Thanks found it. I like the side stripe better but now I think the numbers are not in the right place on my car. I believe they positioned the numbers in a different location for cars that did not have the W30 option which I am now understanding is the option code for the side rally stripe. Hmm new at this Olds stuff. Dilema for sure now. Should I put the rally stripe on or not. Gotta measure the location of the numbers tomorrow to see what I can do. Thanks all.
If you post a pic of your paperwork we can better let you know what your car should look like.
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Sure here is what I have.



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Because you have a Y70 pinstripe you need the numerals in the standard location, not the W36 location that I previously sent you pictures of.
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I don't think I will move the numbers location. I may just not put the stripe. That is too bad I liked the look of the rally stripe on the car. Not a big fan of the pin striping. BTW is the pin striping on the dash painted or metal. My car is in the body shop right now so I can not go out and look.
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You also have the Turnpike Cruiser option. Fairly rare. It's the 400 2 bbl.

The dash stripe is a decal.
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yes I looked for an original 400 2 barrel motor but found a 425 2 barrel instead. running and ready to go. i will drop that motor in the car and pull the 350 Rocket they put in.
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So with the holes in the original location for this car. The stripe will not be centered to the bottom of the fender right?
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Which of these fenders do i have please?
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
Which of these fenders do i have please?

You have the Y70 GT stripe. The standard 68 442 fender in the lower left of the Assembly Manual pic above is the correct numeral location for that stripe.


These are the measurements for that location:


https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...surements.html




Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
So with the holes in the original location for this car. The stripe will not be centered to the bottom of the fender right?

If you put the W36 stripe on that is correct.


A little background....


The W36 stripe was a stand alone option and also mandatory if you got a W30. The Y70 option code (also called the GT pin stripe) was standard with all 68 442's. If you did not wish to have the Y70 GT pin stripe it could be deleted by option code Y74. Because the Y70 stripe could not be installed with the W36 option, all 68 W30 and W36 cars had the option code Y74 checked off.


There are very few 68 or 69 Lansing cars that have any paperwork. Yours was imported into Canada so you're lucky to have it. If this was my car I'd put the numbers in the standard 68 442 location (lower left in the Assembly Manual page above) and I wouldn't put the W36 stripe on it. It really doesn't matter if you put the Y70 stripe on it because that could always be added later.


Just my opinion. It's your car to do as you please.

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Thanks Mike. I will not change the location of the numbers. They will stay in the standard spot and I will not put the stripe. I am a build sheet kind of guy. There is a guy here in Oshawa that gets these build sheets. Does he not have the access to all of the cars built? BTW really appreciate your help on this.
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Originally Posted by angelo68442convertible
There is a guy here in Oshawa that gets these build sheets. Does he not have the access to all of the cars built? BTW really appreciate your help on this.

George Zapora from GM of Canada (sp?) does the documentation for all the Oshawa built cars and all cars that were imported into Canada. Cars that were built and stayed in the United States will only have documentation if the owner happened to save it or if a build sheet was found. Build sheets are sometimes found for all the assembly plants except Lansing. Lansing had a strict policy of not leaving them in the cars. The only documentation sometimes found in Lansing cars are the small 2"x4" Fisher broadcast cards and they only have information pertaining to what was installed at Fisher Body. (BTW this info pertains mainly to 68-69 cars)
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Yes George that is right. I got my build sheets for my 2 GTO's from him as well years ago. Goats are gone, I turned to bikes for a while as they were easier to store. But the 442 has been a fave of mine for the last 30 years and I could not pass this one up. I worked my neighbor for 1.5 years to get this car that was given to him in exchange for him restoring the guys 70 Chevelle. I love this friggin car. Can not wait for the dang winter to be over so I can swap out the motor I got from John here in Canada another sweetheart of a guy. Just finished a build of an 87 Chev R/V20 pickup as well. I call him Megatron. Put a dump bed on it and it came with a plow but it was gone if I did not pull it out of that field this year.
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
I emailed him the 68 Assembly Manual from WAC. He was specfically looking for the placement of the fender numerals for the W36 option which, of, course, the assembly manual doesn't have. So I sent him the "Seven Springs" fender pictures.
If you still have the electronic assembly manual, could ya send it my way? also got a 68’ which i need to check things with.
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Since this old thread was brought to the top anyway, I figure I may as well post the assembly manual page with the W36 stripe placement

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If anyone is Looking for a 1968 product information manual I do sell superior clean readable copies of the manual.
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
Since this old thread was brought to the top anyway, I figure I may as well post the assembly manual page with the W36 stripe placement
I'll also add that the measurements on two original paint W36 fenders don't exactly match this drawing. Chris Witt posted one set of photos and because of that I measured my own 68 W30, which matches the photos Chris took but not this drawing.
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