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Old August 24th, 2022 | 06:24 AM
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1970 OLDS W-30 intake

Testing the waters for this fall about November. I have what we feel is an ORIGINAL 1970 OLDS W-30 intake. Looks like 2.11.70 build date, 5650 above date no apparent cracks and run/works as it should and is currently on a running car. Heard these sell for anywhere from $2,100 and up. So lets ask $2300+shipping????


Old August 24th, 2022 | 11:37 AM
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the F heads sell for that , Good luck.
Old August 25th, 2022 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by lunaboy
the F heads sell for that , Good luck.
This manifold has a good production date and is priced very fair.
IF you have any "F" heads for sale at $2,300, I'll take them ! In fact I'll take a dozen sets at that price if you have them.
Old August 25th, 2022 | 09:51 AM
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this manifold has a good production date and is priced very fair.
If you have any "f" heads for sale at $2,300, i'll take them ! In fact i'll take a dozen sets at that price if you have them.
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Old August 26th, 2022 | 03:49 AM
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Nice piece...GLWS. This would be correct for a 4-speed car.
Old August 26th, 2022 | 04:17 AM
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Nice piece...GLWS. This would be correct for a 4-speed car.
Looks like it came off an automatic. I thought W-30 4-speeds weren't available with power brakes, which this intake has a vacuum tube for the booster on it. PCV port is in the front regardless. It's correct for either type of transmission from what I understand.
Old August 26th, 2022 | 05:01 AM
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Looks like it came off an automatic. I thought W-30 4-speeds weren't available with power brakes, which this intake has a vacuum tube for the booster on it. PCV port is in the front regardless. It's correct for either type of transmission from what I understand.
Good point. The boss in the casting is there regardless but the hole is only bored for stick cars from what I recall. Maybe I'm thinking of cast iron manifolds?
Old August 26th, 2022 | 05:05 AM
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Thanks guys. It came with my clone W30 convert. Was told he had a wrecked 1970 W30 and all the parts were swapped (this was back in the early 2000's). Car even had a W27 rear, but was bent bad so that didn't get swapped over. My car DID get a 1971 W30 rear end with 3.42's.

So my convert isn't originally a W30 and doing some work to it. So would rather see the intake going to some who needs its or would use it as is. I would need to modify it to my need for Sniper, and shouldn't do that to an OEM 1970 piece that has lasted this long.
Old August 26th, 2022 | 05:21 AM
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Hm, I’m not aware of any intake modifications that would be necessary to use a Sniper on your W30 intake…I run a Sniper Quadrajet on my old 04B, it was a bolt-on deal..
Old August 26th, 2022 | 05:28 AM
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Mines a 4150 style single I had it sitting from another build that went to radical. Plus porting being done to the Torker. There is a thread here where a guy tried the SB Sniper on the W30 intake and was nothing but issues. Swapped them out for 4150 and single plane and was fine. PLUS this will be a low 11 second car, so intake mods MUST be done to get there reasonably.
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Originally Posted by Cincinnati Rick
Nice piece...GLWS. This would be correct for a 4-speed car.
It would be correct for any W30, since both MT and AT used the PCV nipple. As noted, the power brake vacuum pipe on this one says that it came off of an AT car originally. That would need to be removed and the port plugged for use on an MT car.
Old August 26th, 2022 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
It would be correct for any W30, since both MT and AT used the PCV nipple. As noted, the power brake vacuum pipe on this one says that it came off of an AT car originally. That would need to be removed and the port plugged for use on an MT car.
Thanks for the clarification Joe. Were the cast iron intakes both drilled for the nipple or just the MT's?
Old August 26th, 2022 | 06:23 AM
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Thanks for the clarification Joe. Were the cast iron intakes both drilled for the nipple or just the MT's?
Cast iron intakes on lesser 442s only got the nipple on MT cars, which I assume is what you were thinking about.
Old August 26th, 2022 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Cast iron intakes on lesser 442s only got the nipple on MT cars, which I assume is what you were thinking about.
Bingo..thanks
Old August 26th, 2022 | 06:54 AM
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Lots of info for future resources and clarification if need.

Thanks
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I would get it Vapor blasted for like $75 it will better your chance on getting what you want. Mine looked about the same as yours before.
Old August 26th, 2022 | 08:55 AM
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It will get blasted. We pulled the intake a month ago to swap in the Sniper/Torker combo, but too many things to change ring now, so back on went the W30 intake till about November. Then it will come off, get all cleaned up for whole wants it. AND I thought someone butchered my intake with the slotted bolt hole? But I now see they have that by #3 port.....
Old August 29th, 2022 | 11:35 AM
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Looks like mines a pretty good deal at $2,300????? Maybe I should just price it the same as this one @ $2,800.00:

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-early-166775/
Old August 29th, 2022 | 11:49 AM
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Intake

Sorry only paid $700 for mine. Maybe I should put it up for $2400 lol
Old August 29th, 2022 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by pnagy23
Sorry only paid $700 for mine. Maybe I should put it up for $2400 lol
Congrads sounds like you got a great deal on an original intake.
Old September 1st, 2022 | 04:47 AM
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This one is an early intake with OLDSMOBILE cast into it, vs OLDS on yours. The early ones sell for more.

Originally Posted by New2oldsw30
Looks like mines a pretty good deal at $2,300????? Maybe I should just price it the same as this one @ $2,800.00:

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-early-166775/
Old September 1st, 2022 | 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Boiler_81
This one is an early intake with OLDSMOBILE cast into it, vs OLDS on yours. The early ones sell for more.
This my be so !
But I think it's a shame when a member post prices of comparison of the same item another member is selling.
It's shows a lot about that person's character and comradery in the Olds community.
Old September 1st, 2022 | 05:59 AM
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It will get blasted......
PLEASE do not blast it! Vapor honing is ok. If you blast it make sure it is very fine glass at a really low pressure or nobody will buy it at any price.
Old September 1st, 2022 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by New2oldsw30
Mines a 4150 style single I had it sitting from another build that went to radical. Plus porting being done to the Torker. There is a thread here where a guy tried the SB Sniper on the W30 intake and was nothing but issues. Swapped them out for 4150 and single plane and was fine. PLUS this will be a low 11 second car, so intake mods MUST be done to get there reasonably.
Let us know how things go with your SNIPER experience. Your intake looks like the OEM one that I just sold months ago when I upgraded my system to the SNIPER 4150 from the SNIPER QJet. Hope all goes well. I love mine now...what a difference. Here is my thread in case you are working the OAI hood clearances with aftermarket intakes like the Torker or the Edelbrock RPM and SNIPER parts for yours. Successful OAI Hood/Air Cleaner Assembly with Performer Intake and Holley SNIPER - ClassicOldsmobile.com
Old September 1st, 2022 | 07:39 AM
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Smh

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This my be so !
But I think it's a shame when a member post prices of comparison of the same item another member is selling.
It's shows a lot about that person's character and comradery in the Olds community.
it shows the character of the people just trying make a big buck on the people that really just love these cars. Not just for the money.
Old September 1st, 2022 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 442Dude
Let us know how things go with your SNIPER experience. Your intake looks like the OEM one that I just sold months ago when I upgraded my system to the SNIPER 4150 from the SNIPER QJet. Hope all goes well. I love mine now...what a difference. Here is my thread in case you are working the OAI hood clearances with aftermarket intakes like the Torker or the Edelbrock RPM and SNIPER parts for yours. Successful OAI Hood/Air Cleaner Assembly with Performer Intake and Holley SNIPER - ClassicOldsmobile.com
DUDE, that build of yours is in my bookmarks. I know we could cut and weld the OEM intake to work with the 4150 Sniper, but why? I grabbed a Torker and have access to another dual plane. Your thread lead me away from the OEM intake and Sniper.
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Originally Posted by pnagy23
it shows the character of the people just trying make a big buck on the people that really just love these cars. Not just for the money.
So, since everyone has the answers to what I should do, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND??

I bought a TRIBUTE 1970 W30 convert. It has a bunch of ORIGINAL 1970 W30 parts. So should I just ask what the scrap rate for aluminum is for my original dated parts???? I don't want to cut or modify the OEM intake to meet my needs.

So I see that people here should be offered the markets "going rate" for stuff and should be low balled because we love cars.

Here one for the financial WIZARDS on this site. I own a OEM 1969 Chevy NUMBERED blocked ZL-1. Market on the block is 20 to $25,000 and complete engines are 50 to 75,000 seeing as ORIGINAL ZL1 cars are starting at ALMOST 3/4 million $$$. But Steel COPO blocks are $2500 to $5000 and complete engines are $25,000. Should I be willing to just sell my ORIGINAL 1969 ZL1 to anyone for LESS then the going market rates at this time????

I'm no where near new at this hobby. Been doing this stuff for 40 yrs. The W30 is the 6th car in the stable and currently have 4 engines on being built, All ALUM 515 inch AND 706 inch BBc, a BOWTIE block 522, a 406 SBc just because I might own a SB car one day, and NOW this 455 OLDS.

So wonder how pissy you guys will get when I post a set of 4 14 inch 1970 SSi with stainless t/rings and Firestone Wide Oval AND 4 BFG T/a's? Up here, the Coker Firestone were over $2,000 for the set! Guess you guys should be getting them for what 30 bucks???? Because you LOVE the hobby! Bloody bunch of winny clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya, I've found some good guys here and was warned when I started. Might be time just to sign off and not deal with OLDS guys any longer............................
Old September 1st, 2022 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by New2oldsw30
So, since everyone has the answers to what I should do, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND??

I bought a TRIBUTE 1970 W30 convert. It has a bunch of ORIGINAL 1970 W30 parts. So should I just ask what the scrap rate for aluminum is for my original dated parts???? I don't want to cut or modify the OEM intake to meet my needs.

So I see that people here should be offered the markets "going rate" for stuff and should be low balled because we love cars.

Here one for the financial WIZARDS on this site. I own a OEM 1969 Chevy NUMBERED blocked ZL-1. Market on the block is 20 to $25,000 and complete engines are 50 to 75,000 seeing as ORIGINAL ZL1 cars are starting at ALMOST 3/4 million $$$. But Steel COPO blocks are $2500 to $5000 and complete engines are $25,000. Should I be willing to just sell my ORIGINAL 1969 ZL1 to anyone for LESS then the going market rates at this time????

I'm no where near new at this hobby. Been doing this stuff for 40 yrs. The W30 is the 6th car in the stable and currently have 4 engines on being built, All ALUM 515 inch AND 706 inch BBc, a BOWTIE block 522, a 406 SBc just because I might own a SB car one day, and NOW this 455 OLDS.

So wonder how pissy you guys will get when I post a set of 4 14 inch 1970 SSi with stainless t/rings and Firestone Wide Oval AND 4 BFG T/a's? Up here, the Coker Firestone were over $2,000 for the set! Guess you guys should be getting them for what 30 bucks???? Because you LOVE the hobby! Bloody bunch of winny clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya, I've found some good guys here and was warned when I started. Might be time just to sign off and not deal with OLDS guys any longer............................
I agree! I've been in this Olds hobby for 40 years.. I've restored a 1966 W30 car before and guess what. I paid what I had to to have all original or NOS parts on that car. To those thinking that all should just give parts and pieces away have you priced an original OAI hood lately or an original W27 rear end???? Just saying!
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Originally Posted by pnagy23
it shows the character of the people just trying make a big buck on the people that really just love these cars. Not just for the money.
I don't believe in the above statement !
The aluminum W30 intakes I have seen for sale lately are in my opinion fairly priced.
I've been in this also for about 40 years. Nothing wrong with getting market value for your parts. Years ago we would give away and swap amongst friends. Nothing worse than seeing something you gave to someone and then see it up for sale.
Heck, I gave a 71 W30 manifold to a friend last year..He needed the part, I had one. If I wanted to sell it, I would have asked 2500 plus.
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Originally Posted by New2oldsw30
So, since everyone has the answers to what I should do, WHAT DO YOU RECOMMEND??

I bought a TRIBUTE 1970 W30 convert. It has a bunch of ORIGINAL 1970 W30 parts. So should I just ask what the scrap rate for aluminum is for my original dated parts???? I don't want to cut or modify the OEM intake to meet my needs.

So I see that people here should be offered the markets "going rate" for stuff and should be low balled because we love cars.

Here one for the financial WIZARDS on this site. I own a OEM 1969 Chevy NUMBERED blocked ZL-1. Market on the block is 20 to $25,000 and complete engines are 50 to 75,000 seeing as ORIGINAL ZL1 cars are starting at ALMOST 3/4 million $$$. But Steel COPO blocks are $2500 to $5000 and complete engines are $25,000. Should I be willing to just sell my ORIGINAL 1969 ZL1 to anyone for LESS then the going market rates at this time????

I'm no where near new at this hobby. Been doing this stuff for 40 yrs. The W30 is the 6th car in the stable and currently have 4 engines on being built, All ALUM 515 inch AND 706 inch BBc, a BOWTIE block 522, a 406 SBc just because I might own a SB car one day, and NOW this 455 OLDS.

So wonder how pissy you guys will get when I post a set of 4 14 inch 1970 SSi with stainless t/rings and Firestone Wide Oval AND 4 BFG T/a's? Up here, the Coker Firestone were over $2,000 for the set! Guess you guys should be getting them for what 30 bucks???? Because you LOVE the hobby! Bloody bunch of winny clowns!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya, I've found some good guys here and was warned when I started. Might be time just to sign off and not deal with OLDS guys any longer............................
well your first problem is you are a true Chevy lover not Oldsmobile. Second is you bought a clone not even a real w30. All that aside. Nobody is crying about anything. There are more people on theses sites just buying and selling and putting ridiculous prices on things. That what’s making your so called market price even more Crazy. And keeping the average blue collar working guy away from being able to obtain anything they might need or want. Just because you have a part sitting in a garage for 20 years that probably cost $200 do you really need to sell it for $3000. At this point to me. There is no more love of having these cars or keeping alive. It’s just a money grab.
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Just because you have a part sitting in a garage for 20 years that probably cost $200 do you really need to sell it for $3000.
No one is stopping you from selling your parts at 1980's prices. If you don't like the price either negotiate or move on it's that simple.
A reproduction w-30 manifold sells for $1000. Doesn't that give you an idea of how much an original should go for?
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no one is stopping you from selling your parts at 1980's prices. If you don't like the price either negotiate or move on it's that simple.
A reproduction w-30 manifold sells for $1000. Doesn't that give you an idea of how much an original should go for?
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well your first problem is you are a true Chevy lover not Oldsmobile. Second is you bought a clone not even a real w30. All that aside.
lol REALLY! I'm not a Chevy lover, but a realist when it come todrag racing! How many LOW 8 second, like 8.30 or faster OLDS N/A cars are out there at 3000+ lbs?

I actually perfer MOPAR the most as for style the most. But the cost of 1971 'Cuda convert is well past 100,000.

My CLONE currenty is appraised at $70,000 FOR NOW. Will get it reappraised after this winter build. OG W30s are well into the 6 figures. Seen a few at almost $300,000. FYI my 1978 SURVIVOR 32,000 mile Z28 just got appraised today for over $45,000.

So where do the blue-collar workers fit in $$$ wise. I too am a LICENCED SKILLED trades guy who worked hrs night weekends to be able to buy my own machines and have a business of it. I have worked hard for years and lived this hobby to be able to afford what I want. I have traveled the IHRA series and spent yrs at the dragstrip. I am not too confident that this OEM W30 will help with my goals of running a least 11.20, pump gas street tire with mild converter and gears. So say 11.20 DAILY DRIVER car my wife can drive to work or take my 4 yr old son to get his air cut.
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If I had a true 70 W-30 that needed an intake, I'd buy it for that. I think $2300 is a fair price for a 2nd design intake. I would pay more for a 1st design, though. Not too cheap, not too pricey for what it is. They're not really worth anything at all to anyone else, really. They have absolutely no performance advantage (other than a few million pounds of weight savings) over a cast iron 70 4-bbl 455 intake. Those iron intakes don't seem that heavy until you have to lift it away from you over the fender when installing in a car. But they do have a coolness factor. My 80s 307s have aluminum intakes, so the fact that its aluminum isn't a big deal. It's more about what makes your car correct when doing a resto.

As far as someone complaining about someone else buying and selling parts they got for $20 forty years ago and selling them today for $3000, I say that's what happens when things suddenly become investments. It's only because of supply and demand. Wow. Free market system at work. Who'd have thunk it? I can't see how anyone can cry about buying low and selling high. I bet if you were smart enough to buy $2300 in Walmart stock in Feb of 1984 at $1.02/share, and you sold today at 134 and change, currently as of this writing, you'd have a shade over $300,000 today ($105,000 in 84 dollars, thus a 4,565% increase in purchasing power). Not sure if it took into account the splits in there or if it was taking that into account already. It is not taking into account dividends or reinvestments of said dividends. Either way, you'd make out big time by doing NOTHING other than putting in a "sell all" order today. Why aren't you railing over those folks making money by buying at one price, and selling when it's higher in demand regardless of what it is? One word. Jealousy. Simple as that.
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You crabby old men have nothing else to do besides troll sites and write short stories to complain and bitch. 30 min and 3 pages to bitch about someone’s opinion. SMH
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Originally Posted by pnagy23
You crabby old men have nothing else to do besides troll sites and write short stories to complain and bitch. 30 min and 3 pages to bitch about someone’s opinion. SMH
Lol... That's funny 😂
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Originally Posted by pnagy23
You crabby old men have nothing else to do besides troll sites and write short stories to complain and bitch. 30 min and 3 pages to bitch about someone’s opinion. SMH
LOL, no but since I run a few companies and being the BOSS, I not only have the expendable $$$$ to buy or sell whatever, but also time to do as I see fit. I make time for my "passion" over my job at times, and this is one of those times. I took care of business, did the banking for a couple companies, checked on 5 deferent jobsites, met with accountants, meet with a few tenants, now have time to come back to car sites.
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You crabby old men have nothing else to do besides troll sites and write short stories to complain and bitch. 30 min and 3 pages to bitch about someone’s opinion. SMH
So you're very new here. Why don't you sell your car at 1980's price? Sounds good to me.
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Originally Posted by pnagy23
well your first problem is you are a true Chevy lover not Oldsmobile. Second is you bought a clone not even a real w30. All that aside. Nobody is crying about anything. There are more people on theses sites just buying and selling and putting ridiculous prices on things. That what’s making your so called market price even more Crazy. And keeping the average blue collar working guy away from being able to obtain anything they might need or want. Just because you have a part sitting in a garage for 20 years that probably cost $200 do you really need to sell it for $3000. At this point to me. There is no more love of having these cars or keeping alive. It’s just a money grab.
thats the biggest cry baby post I’ve seen in a long time.

the price is what someone is willing to pay for it..that’s how it works.



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