Ferrari FF V12 engine swap
#1
Ferrari FF V12 engine swap
Hey guys,
Came across this engine. Out of my financial grasp, but if some of you enthusiasts would be interested in this engine, it'd be amazing to see and hear the results
The conrods each costing $114 in cyl. 5 & 6 need replacing, other than that, engine is in perfect condition.
Quote from Wikipedia:
Can anyone please tell me if this is a realistic option? Crate motors go for $83,600+
I'd love to see this in a 442, or maybe even a Cutlass. Oh, and maybe it could even be in Gran Turismo 7!
Came across this engine. Out of my financial grasp, but if some of you enthusiasts would be interested in this engine, it'd be amazing to see and hear the results
The conrods each costing $114 in cyl. 5 & 6 need replacing, other than that, engine is in perfect condition.
Quote from Wikipedia:
The Ferrari FF has the largest capacity road-going Ferrari engine ever produced: a 6,262 cc (6.3 L; 382.1 cu in) naturally aspirated direct injected 65° V12, which produces 660 PS (485 kW; 651 hp) at 8,000 rpm and 683 N·m (504 lb·ft) of torque at 6000 rpm
Background on damage, owner tried to drive out of flood water damaging compromising cylinders 5&6 It is not believed there is any more damage although further investigation will be completed once the head is removed. I have details of the original cars VIN number and history back which was bought through the insurance companies agent.VAT is recoverable on the sale of this engine @ 20%
I may even be interested in a p/x if you had an imaginative deal in mind....
I'd love to see this in a 442, or maybe even a Cutlass. Oh, and maybe it could even be in Gran Turismo 7!
#3
Pushrods, sorry...
I assume your interested in this engine?
Relisting Update: The engines bottom end has now been opened and i couldn't be more pleased. Our assumptions have proved correct and the only obvious damage are two £68 conrods. One head will have to come off to change the conrods and one cylinder liner and piston needs checking but all easily done. This is such an amazing engine design and so simple to work on.
#4
My guess is that you could get a decent 442 for the price he's asking for this engine, and I don't even know what that is. I'm not even sure the FF is street legal here in the states. The Enzo is not because they refuse to crash one for the DOT and I'm guessing Ferrarri would be less inclined to crash an FF. As far as putting a beast of an engine in an Oldsmobile I think Jay Leno put an engine exceeding 1000 HP in a Toronado which was also converted to rear wheel drive.
#5
My guess is that you could get a decent 442 for the price he's asking for this engine, and I don't even know what that is. I'm not even sure the FF is street legal here in the states. The Enzo is not because they refuse to crash one for the DOT and I'm guessing Ferrarri would be less inclined to crash an FF. As far as putting a beast of an engine in an Oldsmobile I think Jay Leno put an engine exceeding 1000 HP in a Toronado which was also converted to rear wheel drive.
And the FF is defo street legal as I've seen loads being driven in the states, all tagged
#6
Oops, I looked it up and I was thinking of the FXX. This is the car you don't even get to park in your garage. Ferrari brings it to the track for you and takes it away when your done. All this for about 2 1/2 million.
#7
I'm sure if someone could title a FXX in their name, they could send an application to NHTSA in the US and get it in under "Show and Display", because an FXX is a advancement of technology and has all of the lighting requirements a road car. Boo hoo if it doesn't have a airbag, classic cars don't, there's hardly any crashes in those.
#8
I actually prefer a car without an airbag. I realize this probably never happens, but when driving my 540 I am always thinking of the airbag blowing off in my face. It doesn't consume my brain but the thought is always there. Without them I like to think people would drive a little smarter.
#9
The engine doesn't have to be US-legal. Is any custom engine put together by any engine builder tested by the government? Duh.
As for this one, for someone with deep pockets, a sense of humor, and some ingenuity, I think this, plus a stout 4:11 or 4:56 gear would be killer in an Olds (especially a beat-up sleeper ).
- Eric
As for this one, for someone with deep pockets, a sense of humor, and some ingenuity, I think this, plus a stout 4:11 or 4:56 gear would be killer in an Olds (especially a beat-up sleeper ).
- Eric
#10
I actually prefer a car without an airbag. I realize this probably never happens, but when driving my 540 I am always thinking of the airbag blowing off in my face. It doesn't consume my brain but the thought is always there. Without them I like to think people would drive a little smarter.
#11
The engine doesn't have to be US-legal. Is any custom engine put together by any engine builder tested by the government? Duh.
As for this one, for someone with deep pockets, a sense of humor, and some ingenuity, I think this, plus a stout 4:11 or 4:56 gear would be killer in an Olds (especially a beat-up sleeper ).
- Eric
As for this one, for someone with deep pockets, a sense of humor, and some ingenuity, I think this, plus a stout 4:11 or 4:56 gear would be killer in an Olds (especially a beat-up sleeper ).
- Eric
All Olds sold seem to be either crappy, un-restored, dug-up-from-the-1970s condition, extremely high priced restorations, or restored Olds that only have the original frame, everything else being modern (e.g stereo, body-kits, rice exhaust kit) and cost more than a house my whole family could afford
Now, that reminds me, has anyone seen a rolling shell for the '71/72 442? Maybe I could do a Prius swap and build a car for my grandma, or get a £5k 4L Toyota V6 racing engine
I'd build myself a racing car, and build her something that would be eco-friendly, easy to drive, and not too much (baring in mind the fact that she isn't like most nannies, she can afford to be well off, buy me a car, and have some left-overs for self-entertainment)
The way I change the topic hehehe
#12
Well, what else is there? Unrestored, restored, or modified; I think you covered everything. I suppose you didn't list great condition survivor or good restoration, both of which being sold at a loss due to a desperate owner.
These cars are on a rebound; they haven't been bargains in 15 years.
These cars are on a rebound; they haven't been bargains in 15 years.
#13
Well, what else is there? Unrestored, restored, or modified; I think you covered everything. I suppose you didn't list great condition survivor or good restoration, both of which being sold at a loss due to a desperate owner.
These cars are on a rebound; they haven't been bargains in 15 years.
These cars are on a rebound; they haven't been bargains in 15 years.
#14
The engine doesn't have to be US-legal. Is any custom engine put together by any engine builder tested by the government? Duh.
As for this one, for someone with deep pockets, a sense of humor, and some ingenuity, I think this, plus a stout 4:11 or 4:56 gear would be killer in an Olds (especially a beat-up sleeper ).
- Eric
As for this one, for someone with deep pockets, a sense of humor, and some ingenuity, I think this, plus a stout 4:11 or 4:56 gear would be killer in an Olds (especially a beat-up sleeper ).
- Eric
There's a rolling shell here, if your hands are in the right place, and you're skilful, you could buy the engine and the tranny that you mentioned, and you'd have a nice extra Ferrari, with 2013 power, made in 1972
Someone, pretty please, buy the chassis and the engine! I've seen no more than 6 videos of Ferrari swaps, I'm sure this would get attention. The engine is still under warranty (it's a separate part) which means you could get your Olds serviced at a Ferrari dealer. You could race for team Ferrari as well, they build engines and chassis, so you could enter a Ferrari-engine race
#16
Seriously, someone with the money, make it happen!
#17
Seriously, someone with the money, make it happen!
#19
#20
I was actually talking about the FXX as an entire car. I was mistaken, thinking that the FF was the FXX. My bad. And yes I do understand you can put pretty much put anything in a custom car without the DOT's permission.
#23
#24
Let's see. For the price of the engine, you could buy a nice 442. Probably for the price if getting it running you could buy another one. By the time you buy a car and install the engine you could probably have a 69 Hurst Olds. It would be cool to have this engine is whatever. Can you imagine what kind of suspension you would have to have. Somebody with lots of $$$ will put this in a street rod.
#25
Let's see. For the price of the engine, you could buy a nice 442. Probably for the price if getting it running you could buy another one. By the time you buy a car and install the engine you could probably have a 69 Hurst Olds. It would be cool to have this engine is whatever. Can you imagine what kind of suspension you would have to have. Somebody with lots of $$$ will put this in a street rod.
#26
I'd like to know how you replace rods 5 & 6 on a V12 engine with removing exactly ONE head? do the rods not alternate L/R bank down the crank?
Interestingly, and OLDS related, and tangential to this thread... at the Olds Museum I saw an experimental 60 degree V6 engine. exhaust outlet had strong resemblance to our 65-90 V8's, with deep ribs atop the port. Interesting item... Have photo, but painful to get to show up here. It looked like half the above Brand F engine.... w/o the intake.
Interestingly, and OLDS related, and tangential to this thread... at the Olds Museum I saw an experimental 60 degree V6 engine. exhaust outlet had strong resemblance to our 65-90 V8's, with deep ribs atop the port. Interesting item... Have photo, but painful to get to show up here. It looked like half the above Brand F engine.... w/o the intake.
#27
I'd like to know how you replace rods 5 & 6 on a V12 engine with removing exactly ONE head? do the rods not alternate L/R bank down the crank?
Interestingly, and OLDS related, and tangential to this thread... at the Olds Museum I saw an experimental 60 degree V6 engine. exhaust outlet had strong resemblance to our 65-90 V8's, with deep ribs atop the port. Interesting item... Have photo, but painful to get to show up here. It looked like half the above Brand F engine.... w/o the intake.
Interestingly, and OLDS related, and tangential to this thread... at the Olds Museum I saw an experimental 60 degree V6 engine. exhaust outlet had strong resemblance to our 65-90 V8's, with deep ribs atop the port. Interesting item... Have photo, but painful to get to show up here. It looked like half the above Brand F engine.... w/o the intake.
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