They did a pretty good job on the Camaro Now it's time to make an Olds look completely stupid LS motor = gay If it's not a Chevy it gets no respect Look at the '73 Century they ruined

 

x2 on the poor buick .

 

Considering tha frame is a work of art, and that this car will outperform an original in EVERY way.....
Comments like "lame" or "gay" kinda reminds me of Bobcat Goldthwaits comments on star wars purists....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94MMOhIcf5A

 

They will take all the carisma out of that Olds. What is going to be left to make it an Olds ???? Frame is Brand X Chevy motor, Brake system Brand X Looks like a parts car to me. To me The 45 year old technology is all the fun of the car. I own a '69 I don't want it to mimic a new Vette. I like it for what it was in it's day and for what it is now

 

That amused me greatly.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some guys just like slow cars.

 

Somehow I knew you would appreciate that.
I'm still curious if they'll go with fuel injection or a carb on the Olds build.

 

Very cool , like someone said, start a topic on this build. Would love to see how it turns out, I have an old tired sbc in my hoopty and I see this upgrade in my future

 

Thanks for the interest hialeah56.

I will start a thread this weekend and do my best to add to it as I get things done. I am in this for the long haul as I get a little money do a little bit, wait for more money, do a little more........most of you know the drill.

It may get a little boring for everyone as I jump around quite a bit and it might not look like I have a plan (I sorta do).

Hopefully I won't get beat up too badly by the originality police either because I'm kinda sensitive.

Right......

 

BTW, I do the same on my build, little by little a dollar isn't what it used to be. Also, forget the puritans, I saved my hoopty from the junkyard so anyone with an opinion can send me a check if they want it done differently

 

I think LSx swaps just "jumped the shark".
This morning Powerblock did an LS1 RX7, trucks did a 6.0 iron block C10 pickup, and then there's the repeat of the 454 LSx Olds.
BTW, if you dont know what "jumped the shark" means, I'm not telling you damn kids...now get off my lawn.

 

I have been saying this for a few years now but you just used the best term to describe how I feel about them. I will still be doing a swap in my 78 Suburban but I still think they are over done. For the record I think TT2's are overdone too but I'd still put a set on a car especially if it was for sale cause most everyone else still loves them.

 

Personally I prefer running engines without all the electronics. Old guy + old car = old tech. There is just something magical on doing a repair on the side of the road with a screwdriver, some bubblegum, bailing wire, and a pair of pliers.

Don't get me wrong I am not knocking anyone who wants this type of swap. I think they are truly amazing, just at this point in time not for me.

 

I absolutely love the electronics in new cars, I'm even planning on adding tire pressure sensors on my old cars.
I started my first swap back in 2007 with an iron block LQ9 in a 68 vette. Nobody knew much about interchangability of truck and car parts, trans adaptability, control systems, etc.
Now they sell kits to install in a damn Mazda! Maybe I'm a glutton for doing things the difficult way.

 

IMO LS swaps are played out. At a cruise night they are as ubiquitous as a '32 Ford with a SBC in it. It is an especially bad selection for the Olds project. What makes the Hurst Olds special is the presence of the Olds 455 when the cube limit was 400. So you are building a tribute to something but leaving out the part that made it special.

 

Yeah kind of agree, the corvette was done partially for the "ooh, ahh" factor...and a "project".
I did the 72 cutlass LSx swap as a daily driver. No intention of any car shows. And for milage, cost, reliability, ease of use there's no comparison between a new LSx and a 40 year old 455.

 

Absolutely true,
360hp / 500lbs ft in GROSS ratings for a naked engine with headers sitting on a stand.
Keep in mind not all 455's are great motors with even that kind of power.

The 6.2L LS3's are more powerful by a long shot.
Torque is probably equivalent or very close, but the LS3 has probably 200hp more SAE Net
then the best 455ci from the factory after you convert the 455's ratings to SAE net (Post 1972)

455's do have a thunderous exhaust note though that's pretty cool. You'll NEVER take that away from a Big Block.
I'm curious what kind of MPG's a full rated 455 would get with a 6 speed manual behind it.
I'd have to speculate maybe 11 mpg city. Obviously you'd have to swap the rear gear out.

I think both the 455 and LS3 are very cool engines for different enthusiasts goals.
Just depends on what the individual enthusiast is after.....Nostalgia and power, or Modern efficiency and power.

 

What kills me is there is an Olds 455 sitting on a stand that Joe Mondello helped them build.
The motor can be seen in the back round.
Why not use that with a fuel injection system and a 4L80E.
LS motors are for Chebbys.
MY .02

 

If you've been watching the build, EVERYTHING on that car is an exercise in modifications. Most of the bodywork kind of frivelous and pointless. Why would they do anything stock or simple like using a 455? I'm just encouraged and a little surprised they didn't drop in a carbed GM crate engine.
Btw, the old tech TBI units are pointless IMHO. Not much of an improvement over a carb. To get the performance and efficiency of an LS motor you need the engine/head design, cam, sequential port injection, ignition, etc all designed to work together.