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Old January 12th, 2011, 09:50 PM
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Anyone know this Pontiac Warning? (picture)

I have a 2001 Montana and I thought it was low coolant, not according to the manual. The manual doesn't show this symbol, so I thought it might be on other GM products that someone happens to know what it means. It shows up on the "Message Centre". I thought it could also be low engine oil, but again, not according the owners manual. Any help is appreciated.
PS. The Montana is the Canadian version.


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Old January 12th, 2011, 10:37 PM
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It looks like a warning for approaching Ice Age-but not likely! I couldn't find it on the 'net-odd! ---bil
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Old January 12th, 2011, 10:45 PM
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what in the SAM hell is that. i think it means she is ready to blow lol. it is the low brake fluid light i have jumped threw some other forums. and they say is a venture and Montana thing but no one has it in there manuals either. most said there front pads were wore down to were they were just low on fluid. check the master cylinder and add a little if needed then you may want to inspect your brakes and see if its time for some replacements. hope this helps

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Old January 12th, 2011, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by made in the usa
what in the SAM hell is that. i think it means she is ready to blow lol. it is the low brake fluid light i have jumped threw some other forums. and they say is a venture and Montana thing but no one has it in there manuals either. most said there front pads were wore down to were they were just low on fluid. check the master cylinder and add a little if needed then you may want to inspect your brakes and see if its time for some replacements. hope this helps
Thanks man! I'll check it out tomorrow. Funny it's not in the manual. At first I thought it was telling me to get a Charlie Brown sweater. Thanks again.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:19 AM
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It's definitely something to do with brakes.
My BMW has brake warnings that feature a circle with two curved "brake shoes" on the outside like that (never mind that brake shoes go on the INSIDE, or that the car has discs all around...).

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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:47 AM
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Looks like tire treads. Snow tire treads maybe? Who knows.
This is why I hate these ridiculous pictures instead of just wording.
I rented a car once with 6 different pictures on the headlight switch, only one I knew for sure what it was (off). So much for those manditory daytime headlight sections cause I could not figure out what was on!
Nope, no manual in the car, either.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:52 AM
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Duh!!! Its the acorn detector going off. I thought everyone knows that.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 08:09 AM
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Hey Ken,

I got this from a Pontiac site hope this helps.

it means the traction control is inoperative, so probably the a.b.s. is out also.

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Old January 13th, 2011, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by bulldog
it means the traction control is inoperative, so probably the a.b.s. is out also.
Ouch....
In that case, the picture should be of little dollar bills fluttering away to the black hole...
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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bulldog
Hey Ken,

I got this from a Pontiac site hope this helps.

it means the traction control is inoperative, so probably the a.b.s. is out also.

Thanks bulldog. ABS is out. The ABS light is on but it hasn't affected drivability. So I won't be looking at it in -30c temps. I'll wait for the summer. As far as I know the van doesn't have the TC option unless it's part of the ABS system. There is no TC button like on the Intrigue and Aurora. I have a feeling it's low on brake fluid. I'll check that tonight and see if that's it. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 12:40 PM
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I had traction-control & ABS lights on 02 Monte Carlo. Two bad wheel bearings. Now on again, probably the other two now. Rob, you're right about the $ bills fluttering away. $300 for parts, $200 labor.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:14 PM
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Ken, I wonder if there could be an ice build up on one or more of the ABS sensors, causing the light to come on.
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Geiger meter warning.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by bulldog
I wonder if there could be an ice build up on one or more of the ABS sensors, causing the light to come on.
Yeah. I had the same thing on my BMW.
ABS / Traction lights would come on in heavy slush, then go off a day or two later. Then a week or two. Then they just stayed on.
In the spring, I pulled the codes, then pulled the wheels and inspected.
Turned out to be a bad sensor. Changed it and no more problems.
... So it wasn't really the ice, like I thought it was, but that pointed me to the bad sensor .

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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:18 PM
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There has been an issue on the early 2000's GM's with the ABS sensor WIRING from the body to hub harness. The get loose and rub the CV joint. It will also effect your traction control.

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Old January 13th, 2011, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bulldog
Ken, I wonder if there could be an ice build up on one or more of the ABS sensors, causing the light to come on.
ABS light went on in the summer, so it can't be ice. However when it gets a little warmer, I'll check the sensors. Wow! Good info here for a non-Olds. Thanks guys.
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Old January 13th, 2011, 05:33 PM
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So your not overfilling your balloon?

These newer cars are something else..........
07 Pontiac Torrent and the traction control light comes on and powers down the car.........What could it be?

Yep the sensors in the throttle body went out DUH! Why wouldnt the traction control come on! Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Old January 13th, 2011, 09:34 PM
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the abs sensors on this one are built inside the front wheel bearings easy to change out. just 100 bucks a side did you get a chance to see if the brake fluid was low.fun part is what wheel bearing sensor is out need to find some one local that has abs on there scan tool save you money over changing out both front hub assemblies
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i remember having that light on my pontiac. ABS / Traction lights would come on in heavy slush, then go off a day or two later. Then a week or two. Then they just stayed on. you can ask Pontiac repair questions about it. They can guide you with that.
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Old March 28th, 2011, 02:21 PM
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Just an idea,

some of the trucks in our fleet at work have had problems with the ABS lights going on,the mechanic just cleans the sensors and they are good until they get dirty again.

Maybe just a good cleaning is in order.
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I'm gonna say airbag - looks like those Jiffy-pop popcorn balloons!
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Originally Posted by made in the usa
...it is the low brake fluid light ...
This ^
Has the curved 'brake shoes' around a 'drum/disc'
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The sawtooth or 'ripples' means fluid...
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