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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 03:24 PM
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Newbie needs advise on a 1967 Olds 98 2dr Convertible

Bought this on impulse at a estate auction. Afraid to admit what I paid for it it. Don't know if its work trying to fix up or just scrap it. It's not running at this time and last time it was running was 1994. Where it has since sat in a barn. With the top down as I assume from the condition of the interior. Brake pedal is rock hard so i am sure the brakes are locked up. Just not sure if I should start dropping money into it or cut my losses. And chalk it up to another stupid impulse buy. Any advise I would be grateful for.
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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 04:03 PM
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Welcome to the site, looks worn but pretty solid. Might as well try and start it, make your decision based on how that goes.
Old Aug 29, 2015 | 05:05 PM
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It looks like hell at the moment, but I'll bet that interior will clean up pretty nicely with a little soap and water. The exterior looks to be in very good shape with no obvious rust and solid bumpers. Your biggest issue will be, as oldcutlass says, to get the engine to run. If it has not been started in 21 years, you'll want to make sure the engine turns freely and then replace the spark plugs, oil, oil filter, and battery. You might be surprised how quickly it gets running again. Before driving it, you'd want to verify that the brakes are ok. A hard pedal doesn't necessarily mean locked up brakes, but unlocking them isn't impossible.

I think you certainly don't want to scrap it. Not a convertible, and not before at least trying to sell it to someone who would want to restore it.

The all-yellow color scheme was offered as a "spring special" by Oldsmobile in late spring of 1967, so your car's colors scheme is not unusual.

I have a very close cousin to your car, a '67 Delta 88 convertible. Mine was originally yellow, too, but I had it repainted red because I just like that color better.

Here's what my car looked like when I bought it in 2009. The paint was very faded, but the body was solid, the top was in pretty good shape, and the interior was perfect.





Here's what it looks like now.







Here's what your car probably looked like when new, although yours has what appears to be a brown dash and a brown carpet like my car. I saw this '67 98 convertible at the Charlotte Auto Fair in April 2011 and took a few photos of it.






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Old Aug 29, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Is it true that there was only 3,769 Old's 98 convertibles built in 1967?
Old Aug 29, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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That's correct. Convertible production was always much lower than the closed styles. By comparison, production of the other 98 body styles that year was 8,900 Town Sedans (four-door non-hardtop), 10,476 Holiday Coupes (two-door hardtop), 17,533 Holiday Sedans (four-door hardtop), and 35,511 Luxury Sedans (another four-door model).

Another way of looking at it is that, out of a total of 76,198 98's Oldsmobile made for 1967, only 3,769, or just under 5%, were convertibles.

Convertibles are always sought after, and the one you've come across looks pretty good considering.
Old Aug 30, 2015 | 06:52 AM
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Is that a triple yellow car? It's awesome! Contact me before you decide to scrap it!

The "rock hard" brake pedal is likely a stuck master cylinder. Expect to replace everything in the brake system. Pull the spark plugs and squirt oil in the cylinders before attempting to turn the motor over. Spin it by hand using a breaker bar on the crank bolt first, to avoid damaging anything if it's seized. You really should pull the distributor and prime the oil pump before that (counterclockwise!).
Old Aug 30, 2015 | 07:26 AM
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Wow, the body looks super solid on it. I seem to have this affliction in which I consistently buy cars similar to what you have there. The problem is, in my mind I only see the beautifully restored one, such as the one posted by Jaunty.

The joy I get out of the hobby is finding stuff like that, and piddling around on it to get it mostly safe and functional. The parts are relatively low cost (compared to say a Packard) and if you can do the work, you shouldn't be too upside down.
Old Aug 30, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Nice find, congrats.
Old Aug 31, 2015 | 07:47 AM
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That car's not too far gone unless its floors are rusted thru. Mechanical is easy, and you see what the end result could be. A triple yellow 67 Olds is a beautiful thing.


The pics Jaunty posted are the James Suther Ninety Eight out of Greenville SC. That car is one of three I know of that went from First Junior to Preservation Senior in OCA judging in THREE years. Very high quality car though I'm not sure what happened to it since James' death. His son and grandson were into showing it about as heavy as he was so odds are it's still with the Suthers.


First time James brought that car to AutoFair, after talking with him I knew he was interested in making that car the best it could be. We judged it by OCA sheet and although some of the stuff was nitpicky, the next AutoFair the issues would be corrected and the score went up.


After four years, the car made its OCA debut at the 1995 Greensboro National Meet and scored 992 points for First Junior Best of Class. It scored 980+ in its Senior class in Atlanta 1996 and moved to Preservation Senior where it has consistently scored high 980s.


Did I mention this car is DRIVEN everywhere it goes? On the way to Springfield IL in 1998, we were on a 2-lane road trying to avoid St Louis afternoon rush hour. We got behind a pig truck and were trying to get nine cars around it. I started around it on the Toronado and the floor mat had got bunched up under the gas pedal, so I was wrangling with that when I saw the maw of this big yellow Ninety Eight about to run up my trunk lid.
Old Sep 5, 2015 | 12:01 PM
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Well went to go look at it to see what's it's going to take to get it going. Didn't have tools with me to wrench on it. But took more pics. Honestly leaning towards selling it. Needs more work than I have time to put into it. I don't even have a indoor place to work on it. Will make a post in the for sale section later today. Hate to see it just around for another 20+ yrs. Be nice to know someone took the time to fix it up. Since its kinda a rare car.

From what I could read off the plate on the fire-wall.

ST 67-38467 LAN 2680 BODY
TR 038-D Y-8 PAINT
E 2E
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Old Sep 5, 2015 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by quazy
ST 67-38467 LAN 2680 BODY
TR 038-D Y-8 PAINT
E 2E
I'm not sure what the 038 is, but it would tell you the color of the seats. I'm guessing it's yellow vinyl. The D indicates "strato bench seat."

3867 = 98 (38) convertible (67)
LAN = Lansing assembly plant
Y = lower body color = saffron yellow (same as my Delta before it was painted)
8 = upper body/convertible top color = yellow (again, same as my Delta, although my car now has a black top)
E = tinted windshield and windows
2E = air conditioning


There should also be a numbers/letter code at the upper left of the tag above the 67 which would give the build date. On my car, it's 05D, indicating the fourth week of May (1967). My guess yours will have an 05 as well as this was a spring 1967 promotion.
Old Sep 6, 2015 | 08:03 AM
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Is there a minimum post count to be able to create a thread in the for sale section?
Old Sep 6, 2015 | 08:09 AM
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No your for sale thread is here:
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...tion-iowa.html
Old Sep 6, 2015 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 09:32 AM
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Thread isn't showing up for me. Guess I'll just post it on craigslist.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 09:35 AM
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I think that's a smarter course of action, anyway. Create the ad once, on craigslist, and then just post the link to the ad in a For Sale thread here. No need to write the whole description again and post photos again when you can just post once and then provide a link.

This is what I did when I sold my '73 Custom Cruiser last fall. People on classicoldsmobile found the ad just fine, and it did end up selling to someone from this site.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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Can someone else try the link I posted and let me know if it works? It works for me.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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It does not work for me.

I get this:


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Old Sep 7, 2015 | 09:50 AM
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I even tried to created another forsale thread yesterday.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:13 AM
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Isn't this the For Sale ad?

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...tion-iowa.html
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Isn't this the For Sale ad?
I click on that link, and I don't get the ad. I get the "Invalid Thread" error message I posted above. I tried it in both Firefox and Chrome.

The other thing is, if there is a For Sale thread for this car, I should be able to go to the "Cars for Sale" under Classifieds and find a thread for this car. I don't see any such thread.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:21 AM
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Hmmmmmmm
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
I click on that link, and I don't get the ad. I get the "Invalid Thread" error message I posted above. I tried it in both Firefox and Chrome.

The other thing is, if there is a For Sale thread for this car, I should be able to go to the "Cars for Sale" under Classifieds and find a thread for this car. I don't see any such thread.
Curious. I see the ad in the For Sale section, but the title is prefaced with the word "Moderated". Apparently that means that only moderators can see it. I have no idea why that is the case. We've had no response from the admins on this.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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OK, I clicked on it just now, and it worked.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:29 AM
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Fixed it. For some reason both the For Sale ads that the OP created were tagged as Closed Threads. I do not know why. I untagged one of them.

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...tion-iowa.html
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:30 AM
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You guys are amazing.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:32 AM
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Of course, it was a bit of a letdown when I finally saw the ad. It's just two lines with a link back to this thread. Functional, but boring!
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
Of course, it was a bit of a letdown when I finally saw the ad. It's just two lines with a link back to this thread. Functional, but boring!
Isn't that the whole point of hyperlinks? You don't need to retype info, just link to it. Me, I'm lazy. I would have done the same thing.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Isn't that the whole point of hyperlinks?
It is, but with all the build-up and suspense, I was expecting more! Plus, this thread isn't really a succinct, for-sale ad. It's a series of posts with some photos and almost no description of the car in terms of options and specific condition of the various components. For an effective ad, photos and description should be all in one message.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
It is, but with all the build-up and suspense, I was expecting more! Plus, this thread isn't really a succinct, for-sale ad. It's a series of posts with some photos and almost no description of the car in terms of options and specific condition of the various components. For an effective ad, photos and description should be all in one message.
I'm just glad the car is in Iowa. If it were any closer to me, I'd own it already.
Old Sep 7, 2015 | 10:43 AM
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That shouldn't stop you. I expect you to have this car inside of a week!

Where will you ever find one of these for $800?
Old Sep 8, 2015 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
I'm just glad the car is in Iowa. If it were any closer to me, I'd own it already.


Sez the man who hauled a pair of F85 wagons all the way across the country...
Old Sep 8, 2015 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rocketraider
Sez the man who hauled a pair of F85 wagons all the way across the country...
AND a 64 Vista...

The fact that none of those is done is why I'm not buying another project.
Old Sep 8, 2015 | 08:27 AM
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...But the what if wheels are spinning.
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 03:47 PM
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Well went to pick up the car and a regular 16ft trailer isn't wide or long enough. So now I need to track down a 18ft flatbed trailer. What a P.I.T.A. this has become.
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 04:28 PM
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Gee, you shoulda asked!

Yes, these are some of the largest cars Olds ever built. The '67 98 measures 223 inches (18 feet, 7 inches) in length. It was six inches longer than the same-year Delta 88. Wheelbase is 126 inches.
Old Sep 13, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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Cleaner n straighter than our 66 and we only paid a little less. Id find a way to keep her. I think It is a good long term investment
Old Sep 23, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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Well got the car to town finally last week. The brakes weren't locked must just be the master cylinder. I have a guy "coming to get it tomorrow". If it falls threw I am going to PB blast the cylinders and Start working on the master cylinder. I have 4 day off from work. I am hoping fixing the brakes doesn't turn into a nightmare. With rusty bleeder valves and brake lines. I know how it can quickly turn into nightmare. So either it's going buh bye tomorrow or I am going to atleast try to get started on somethings.
Old Sep 23, 2015 | 08:05 PM
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Well, what ever you end up doing, good work on saving that car!
Old Sep 23, 2015 | 10:32 PM
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Wow! That price is a very good deal for the right guy. It is a nice car for the age and what it is. Plenty of guys on here can advise you on how to get it going if you don't get it sold.I am glad you saved this cool car.
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