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Old May 17, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Bought a 1977 oldsmobile omega 4 door with the original 305 the previous owner never got the title transferred into his name before I bought it this is the first car I was gonna buy for me and my daughter so I was kinda existed about it so I kinda jumped the gun and didn't look than over like I should of I'm getting told there's no way to get the car legal I'm just wondering if anybody can point me in a detection were I might be able to figure this out so we can get this beauty on the street.
Old May 17, 2016 | 11:18 AM
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Who's name is on the title?
Old May 17, 2016 | 11:26 AM
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The owner before the person who sold it to me the person who sold it signed the back tho.
Old May 17, 2016 | 11:28 AM
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different states have different laws,where are you? did you get an old registration and or title?
Old May 17, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Missouri have title just improperly filled and it's an out of state title
Old May 17, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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Call your DMV office, you may have to have the person who sold it to you transfer the title to himself and then to you.
Old May 17, 2016 | 12:56 PM
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I saw your post replying to a 8 year old post. I would not hold my breath waiting for a reply. You need to start with your states motor vehicle office first. All states are different. It used to be easy to get a title for anything, but not anymore.
Old May 17, 2016 | 01:22 PM
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Got to your local DMV and try to transfer and see what they tell you. It might go smooth, it might not, but asking Internet before trying will not get you anywhere.
Old May 17, 2016 | 01:57 PM
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From the Missouri DMV website:

Missouri law requires that a motor vehicle must be titled (within 30 days of the purchase date) before it is either registered for highway use or transferred to another individual. If you do not have a properly assigned title (or Manufacturer's Statement of Origin), you have no clear legal right to the vehicle.
If you did not receive a properly assigned ownership document (e.g., certificate of title) at the time of purchase, and the seller is not available to make proper assignment, you may wish to seek the advice of a legal professional.

Since the party you bought the vehicle from did not have clear title to the car, they were not the legal owner of the vehicle. Hopefully you can go back to the seller and ask them to title the car in their name and when they receive the title, then they can sign it over to you. If you cannot locate the seller, you might want to try to locate the person named on the title and ask them to apply for a duplicate title and then they sign it over to you. I hope everything works out for you.
Old May 17, 2016 | 02:49 PM
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As others have said, I would just ask your local DMV. If I am correct Missouri is a title state, but other states may not be. For example I can not title my 1970 car in Alabama, if I sold it to you I am fairly sure you can take the Bill of Sale and a Missouri Title application and have no issues. If don't take the old out of state title with you. As the Alabama DMV told me, we don't need to see it.
Old May 17, 2016 | 03:18 PM
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Go to this link: http://dor.mo.gov/forms/index.php?fo...s=Search+Forms


Get the Buying A Vehicle Guide and look at page 2 it will tell you what the Bill of sale needs to say.
Old May 17, 2016 | 04:37 PM
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30 day purchase date law doesn't make any difference, you can still transfer the car after 30 days, it just involves some penalty fees.
Old May 17, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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In Oregon it would make no difference. You have 30 days to transfer here and all that does is mean they can charge you an extra fee if you do not transfer it within that time. It has no effect on if you sell it. the new buyer has a new 30 days and all is required is a bill of sale which could be on any paper in anyones name.
Old May 17, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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I had a similar problem a few years ago with a later model car.

The guy who sold me the car had the title, and it was signed over to him.
He gave me a signed receipt and bill of sale.
Back in the "old days," I could have taken this clear trail of ownership to the DMV and registered the car, but the nice lady at the town hall told me that that was no longer the case, and that now, since the car had been signed over to him, he had to register it himself and gat a title in his name before he could legally sell it to me (the point of all of this is to allow the state to collect all of the fees from this unnecessary registration).

Since the seller was actually a legal resident of a different state, he was VERY unhappy about this, as he had to now pay sales tax, and register and insure the car in a different state before selling it to me.
The only way he would do this was if I covered his expenses - yes, it was his responsibility, but he had had no idea of the new laws either, and hiring a lawyer to take him to court across state lines would have been far more expensive.

So, after a two month delay, I was finally able to register the car.

Bottom line: Unless you have a contact in a state that will allow him to register the car without a title, and then sell it back to you, there is likely nothing you can do. If you can't coerce the previous owner to take care of this, it is probably too expensive to sue him, so you will have no choice but to part the car and abandon the frame (a junk yard won't take it without a legal title).

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Old May 18, 2016 | 05:00 AM
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Timmy2time,
Just call or go by your DMV. I just went through this very same thing in Alabama and it can be done, you just need to know the rules. Alabama will not title any car that is over 35 years old but I had no issues getting the car registered. They will also never make me a title, but in the end it is still my car and it is legal to drive.
You really need to know 2 things. What state did you buy the car? and What state are you trying to title it. I assume by your comment above you are trying to register it in Missouri. I believe Missouri requires a title on ALL cars regardless of age in order to register it, but you will have to review there rules. The link I gave you above will get you going in the right direction. As for the state you bought the car. all states are different, if that state does not title older cars, then all you will need is a Bill of Sale. If the state you bought the car requires a title then you will have issues.
Old May 18, 2016 | 01:24 PM
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Don't know why you think I bought a car and didn't go to the DMV first who does that that is why I turned to this page... common scene not so common now days
Old May 18, 2016 | 02:15 PM
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Maybe because you did not say you went to the DMV, and yes, you are right common SENSE is not so common today. What did you say " I kinda jumped the gun ". Common sense would tell me if I lived in a state that required a title, I would probably look at it. I was just trying to give you some input to your original post, sorry for trying to help. Good luck.
Old May 18, 2016 | 02:28 PM
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Man you are telling us about common sense?? Everybody here is trying to help you.
Maybe if that mumbo jumbo you wrote was a little clearer, we wouldn't have to guess.
Old May 18, 2016 | 07:00 PM
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Maybe I was a little unclear but how did I figure out I had a problem in the first place I apologize for not being clear and for my last post I'm just kinda upset for the mistake I made I do appreciate the help but I'm being told the same thing
Old May 18, 2016 | 07:16 PM
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Try this guy. Or any of these fellows in your area. Good luck.
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Old May 18, 2016 | 08:32 PM
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Every car I bought out of state required a signed notarized title and a bill of sale. Also I know you can't sell a car that is not in your name. The seller should have transferred it to their name ( and paid the taxes because we all know that is what it is all about). Only then can they sell it to you. They previous owner may help you unless they are less than moral in which case they will charge you extra to legalize your title.
Old May 19, 2016 | 04:53 AM
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The below is directly from the Missiouri DMV website: It all depends on what state the car was bought from. The original OP never said where the car was bought or last titled, only that the last title was from out-of-state.

Vehicles Bought Out-of-State (Not in Missouri)
New Vehicle Bought Out-of-State – You must receive the dealer’s invoice or a bill of
sale and assigned Manufacturer’s Statement of Origin from the out-of-state dealer. You
(the purchaser) and the dealer must complete the odometer disclosure portion on the back
of the Manufacturer’s Statement of Origin.
Used Vehicle Bought Out-of-State – You must receive either a properly assigned title (see page 3
for an explanation) from the seller or a reassigned title from the dealer. If the state does not require
a title, you must get a bill of sale. The bill of sale must include the seller and purchaser’s name, address,
signature, purchase date, purchase price, year, make, and vehicle identification number of the
vehicle being sold.
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