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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:06 PM
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Hi all! (Long read)

My name is Logan and I'm the new (young) guy on the block. I own a 1968 442 that I'm in the process of restoring. It's taking me a while cause I'm only 21, but it's been well worth it so far.

So here's my story:
10 years ago my uncle acquired this car from a man in Flint. At that time the car barely ran, the guys paint job that he did was horrible and he hob-jobbed the hole thing (The wiring is soooo messed up). My uncle pulled the motor and trans and had huge ambitions of redoing this car, but it ended up sitting around doing nothing for six years. He did do a couple good things though, he re-did the interior and rebuilt the transmission.

Fast forward to three years ago:
My uncle had to move and ended up giving the car to my grandparents. Well, after about a year of it just doing more sitting in my grandparents garage, and me helping my grandfather getting it running I ended up buying the car off of them. Like I said, my grandpa and I got the car going a year after it sat even longer (so that's about 8 years of this car sitting and doing nothing). The second day of me owning this car it threw a rod. Talk about heart breaking. luckily i didn't crack the block.
So after a year of this car just sitting with a blown motor I saved up enough to rebuild it. It's now running great (minus a vacuum leak that JUST happened). I've also had to do other minor repairs here and there like fixing the speedo gear o-ring and what not.
It's been a long couple years for me (and a lot of money for a 21 year old haha), and a long decade for this car but it's finally driving on the road.

Future Plans:
This winter my buddy and I are going to be doing a complete frame off restoration of this car. I'm leaning on painting it nocturne blue. (the original color is Jade Gold and the color it is now is white (lots of orange peel going on!!!))
I'm going also be building a 455 motor to replace the 400 that is in it now. This is due to the fact that the 400 that is in it now is the numbers matching motor for that car and I don't want to risk ruining it again.
We will also be rebuilding a 400 tranny to go behind it (or maybe something different, any suggestions?) the TH350 I have was built up with a stall kit and all that but I don't think it will handle the 455. Also that 350 is paired with that 400 motor so I don't want to ruin it. They run great together.
It already has a floor shifter so I may do a manual tranny conversion when I put in the 455 since the conversion will be pretty simple.
I will make sure to make a thread in the major builds section with lots of pics (i plan on taking lots) for everyone to see.

Any suggestions and criticism is very much appreciated and I can't wait to get to know everyone!

Here is the info on my car if anyone is interested:

1968 Oldsmobile 442
400 BB #s matching with "C" Cylinder Heads
Edelbrock Performer Intake Manifold
Holley Carb
350TH Transmission with stall kit
Type O Posi Rear end
Built in Lansing (about an hour and a half from my house)
Originally Jade Gold, White right now, Will be painting it Nocturne Blue with White Stripe.

Wish me luck! I'm 21 and broke but it's my dream!
Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:18 PM
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welcome to the site...great story
Old Aug 1, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Thanks! Everyone on here seems really cool and I'm excited to have a place that I can come to and ask anything and get an answer. The support base here is awesome!
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 08:14 AM
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Umm.... I think I speak for the rest of the guys when I say. Post some pictures or GET OUT!!!!! LOL

We always love pictures. Great to see young blood in the hobby.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 09:00 AM
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Great! another 68! Luv em!!! Welcome and get ready for some real fun on the frame off. been there (wait...still there!)
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LoganMiller68
Also that 350 is paired with that 400 motor so I don't want to ruin it. They run great together.
It already has a floor shifter so I may do a manual tranny conversion when I put in the 455 since the conversion will be pretty simple.
Do you know where the turbo 350 came from? if it came from the factory with an automatic i believe it should be a 400. Guys, correct me if I am wrong.

If you plan on a 4 speed either now or later make sure your crank is drilled for the pilot bearing before you assemble the engine. A lot of them are not.

Have you checked the #'s to confirm its a 442?
Its a great story & i admire your ambition at such a young age. @ 18 I blew the engine in my '71 442 and sold it for parts.
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Thanks everyone! I know I've got a huge project a head of me but I have a lot of drive behind it. ( Losing sleep over it because I'm too excited haha)

Here are some pics of my car. It needs work, and I don't have any pics of the newly built motor up yet but I will get some soon hopefully. But you guys can see why I'm restoring it But it's not too bad of a base to start off of.
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by droptopron
Do you know where the turbo 350 came from? if it came from the factory with an automatic i believe it should be a 400. Guys, correct me if I am wrong.

If you plan on a 4 speed either now or later make sure your crank is drilled for the pilot bearing before you assemble the engine. A lot of them are not.

Have you checked the #'s to confirm its a 442?
Its a great story & i admire your ambition at such a young age. @ 18 I blew the engine in my '71 442 and sold it for parts.
It is most definitely a 442. I checked my numbers.

When I said that the TH350 is a good pair for my 400BB I didn't mean that the Transmission was original, just the motor. I have no clue were the original TH400 went. That was all long before I owned this car. My car is set up for the TH400 though, it has the spot to hook up the electric kick-back on my pedal. (had to jerry rig a set up for the kick back cable on the TH350)

I will also remember what you said about the crank when i build the 455, thanks for the tip!
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Old Aug 2, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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Personally I'd go with the Jade Gold, but I might be a bit biased
Old Aug 2, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Beautiful 442, welcome to CO!
Old Aug 3, 2011 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by starfire
Personally I'd go with the Jade Gold, but I might be a bit biased
Is the 68 in your picture Jade Gold? Beautiful car by the way!

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Beautiful 442, welcome to CO!
Thanks!
Old Aug 3, 2011 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LoganMiller68
Is the 68 in your picture Jade Gold? Beautiful car by the way!



Thanks!

Yes it is Jade Gold. Thanks for the kind words. She desperately needs a repaint.

I must say though, whichever way you decide, Nocturne Blue or Jade Gold, you won't be sorry. They are both beautiful colors and you don't see too many of them around.
Old Aug 3, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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Yes it is Jade Gold. Thanks for the kind words. She desperately needs a repaint.

I must say though, whichever way you decide, Nocturne Blue or Jade Gold, you won't be sorry. They are both beautiful colors and you don't see too many of them around.
Ya, my favorite color is blue, and the Nocturne Blue is such a nice shade of dark blue. I think it's what i will ultimately go with
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 11:12 PM
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Glad to see a young guy that has the fire for these cars. Most guys your age are worried about cheap beer and expensive women Good luck with the build and keep the pics coming!
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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Good story, my mom needed a quick car to drive when hers broke down, i found a recently restored 85 cutlass salon and its still the nicest one ive ever seen, on the ride back home when we got the car my parents told me it would be my first car, i was fourteen, im still 15, man those two years are taking a long time!
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 07:43 AM
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Thanks Everyone! Will definitely keep the pics flowing when I start the rebuild!

Originally Posted by 85cutlass6.6
Good story, my mom needed a quick car to drive when hers broke down, i found a recently restored 85 cutlass salon and its still the nicest one ive ever seen, on the ride back home when we got the car my parents told me it would be my first car, i was fourteen, im still 15, man those two years are taking a long time!
That's awesome man! Good luck with that car! What kinda motor is in it?
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 08:24 AM
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307 now but working on a 403!
Nice man! Those G-Bodys are nice cars
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 08:41 AM
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Nice man! Those G-Bodys are nice cars
Doing a frame off on an 87 regal now
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 85cutlass6.6
Doing a frame off on an 87 regal now

Whos car is that?
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 09:26 AM
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Old Aug 4, 2011 | 09:40 AM
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Great to see another young guy into Oldsmobiles. I just turned 22 and currently working on a 72 cutlass supreme convertible. Plus, I'm broke too! But any money that ever comes my way immediately goes into that car. I love it. Best of luck with your build!
Old Aug 4, 2011 | 10:43 AM
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Great to see another young guy into Oldsmobiles. I just turned 22 and currently working on a 72 cutlass supreme convertible. Plus, I'm broke too! But any money that ever comes my way immediately goes into that car. I love it. Best of luck with your build!
Thanks!! What's gonna be cool is that I will be rebuilding this car while about ten feet next to me in the same garage my buddy is rebuilding his 72 Chevelle. So we will be helping each other out in our builds and will both have our dreams finished around the same time. I'm very excited!
Old Aug 5, 2011 | 03:39 PM
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Welcome to CO and good luck with your build. Don't forget lots of pics
Old Aug 6, 2011 | 06:42 AM
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Smart guys know the price of beer never changes but women can get cheaper when siting in a nice muscle car. Its even easier if the passanger side exhaust is close to the floor and passanger seat base.

Originally Posted by nofiveo
Glad to see a young guy that has the fire for these cars. Most guys your age are worried about cheap beer and expensive women Good luck with the build and keep the pics coming!
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Smart guys know the price of beer never changes but women can get cheaper when siting in a nice muscle car. Its even easier if the passanger side exhaust is close to the floor and passanger seat base.
Haha! I will make sure that I keep that in mind when I re-do the exhaust this winter
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Welcome to the forum! Looks like a really nice car, keep us updated on the progress!
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So I'm pretty excited today. I located the original Body by Fischer manual for this thing!
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Originally Posted by LoganMiller68
Thanks!! What's gonna be cool is that I will be rebuilding this car while about ten feet next to me in the same garage my buddy is rebuilding his 72 Chevelle. So we will be helping each other out in our builds and will both have our dreams finished around the same time. I'm very excited!
Just remember that Chevy distributors turn backwards from an Olds and you should be able to pull it off.

Always good to see a young buck into old iron. The 68 is my favorite of the 68-72 cars.

Good find on the Fisher Body book. The 1968 Olds Chassis Service Manual may not be easy to find in good shape. For whatever reason they seem to literally fall apart at the binding, but that and an assembly manual will both be money well spent.
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Just remember that Chevy distributors turn backwards from an Olds and you should be able to pull it off.

Always good to see a young buck into old iron. The 68 is my favorite of the 68-72 cars.

Good find on the Fisher Body book. The 1968 Olds Chassis Service Manual may not be easy to find in good shape. For whatever reason they seem to literally fall apart at the binding, but that and an assembly manual will both be money well spent.
Ya, no problem with the distributor. I've already had to replace mine

That Fisher manual is like 3" thick lol It's gonna help a lot on this rebuild
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That Fisher manual is like 3" thick lol It's gonna help a lot on this rebuild
No, the Fisher Body manual is about 1" thick. The Oldsmobile Chassis Service Manual is about 3" thick. You'll want both. Get the Assembly Manual also.

Go here: http://wildaboutcarsonline.com

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Welcome to the forum. (Sorry this post is late, had a move and new job in the mix, now getting back on here) It is great to have another young person on here. These cars are great (most of these cars were somehow or another built by one of my family members, I had a ton of them working in the industry for many many years and they hold a special place in my heart) and I love seeing young guys like me (25 now, 22 when I got my Olds) getting into these cars.
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welcome to the club! good to see other young folks on here (i'm 22)



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