Stopping by to say hi..67 Cutlass ragtop
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Stopping by to say hi..67 Cutlass ragtop
Just stopping by to intro myself. I just purchased a 1967 Olds Cutlass Supreme rag top, pwr windows, p.s, p.b. She is in amazing shape & im proud to own it. It has the usual leak here & drip there. New white top & mint red interior, im actually amazed at the interior. I threw some plugs in it, changed the oil & drove it all over. The top hesitates after every 5 seconds or so & then if u let it set for about 15 seconds & hit the button it will go again. Ive never had a rag top do this maybe someone can help. Im amazed at the knowledge some of u have on these Oldsmobiles. I went through the cowl numbers & figured a few things out but a few that i cant. Ill be around ofetn as i am semi retired & i want to play with this Olds & get it right. I think it has the orig 330 as the engine front is stamped with 394417 3. But the heads read V488070 G , i found research that said the heads were off a 400, maybe they are wrong. Looking forward to being on board..Drive fast & take chances. Ace
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You are correct, the block casting number is a 330 (you can't tell if it's original since there are no unique numbers on the block in 1967). The engine unit number code on the head IS for a 1967 442 400 motor, so the heads appear to have been swapped. What's the casting letter on the heads next to the no. 1 and no. 8 spark plugs. I'll bet that it's a "C".
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Thanx Joe
Hello Paisan & thanx for the responce. I knew u would be the guy I would hear from as I see you & your vast knowledge all over the site. Your memory & your know how of the Oldsmobile line is amazing.. The letter that is stamped a little bit away from the numbers on the rear of the drivers side head looks like a G but could be a C, i was checking it through a telescopic mirror. Here is what i see on the head V488070 G OR C....This is my first OLds of any kind & I love it & i feel i got a great deal on it.. On my Cowl tag I also see some letters & numbers i just cant decode. On the left of the tag looking form the front of the car the last 2 lines are stamped WX & under that 4FC. I found the paint code & its spanish red & the interior is bright red with buckets & thats what i have..MY cowl tag starts at the top left & says O5B then to the right of that is an S. Under that in the next line is ST 67-338 67 LAN 6901. Under that on next line is 975-B to the right of that is the paint code R-1 which i think is Spanish Red. I don;t mean to be a pain but I just like knowing what I have. I appreciate all your time & help. Once I figure out how to put up pics I will Have a great day.....
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Just an Olds Guy
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Posts: 24,525
Belated welcome aboard.
Some info I can give you:
05B - build month and week (May, second week) - to know the day, you will need a build sheet or broadcast card
ST 67 - 1967 production year
33867 - V8 Cutlass convertible
Your Paint R - is spanish red
1 - is the color of your roof - white
Lan - Lansing production
6901 - body number
975 - trim color - Red with red bucket seats
The number you quoted before 397417 - 3 That's definitely a 67 330, but is that a 3 or a 2?
On the heads, any chance the numbers are 400370 D?
Some info I can give you:
05B - build month and week (May, second week) - to know the day, you will need a build sheet or broadcast card
ST 67 - 1967 production year
33867 - V8 Cutlass convertible
Your Paint R - is spanish red
1 - is the color of your roof - white
Lan - Lansing production
6901 - body number
975 - trim color - Red with red bucket seats
The number you quoted before 397417 - 3 That's definitely a 67 330, but is that a 3 or a 2?
On the heads, any chance the numbers are 400370 D?
#6
Belated welcome aboard.
Some info I can give you:
05B - build month and week (May, second week) - to know the day, you will need a build sheet or broadcast card
ST 67 - 1967 production year
33867 - V8 Cutlass convertible
Your Paint R - is spanish red
1 - is the color of your roof - white
Lan - Lansing production
6901 - body number
975 - trim color - Red with red bucket seats
The number you quoted before 397417 - 3 That's definitely a 67 330, but is that a 3 or a 2?
On the heads, any chance the numbers are 400370 D?
Some info I can give you:
05B - build month and week (May, second week) - to know the day, you will need a build sheet or broadcast card
ST 67 - 1967 production year
33867 - V8 Cutlass convertible
Your Paint R - is spanish red
1 - is the color of your roof - white
Lan - Lansing production
6901 - body number
975 - trim color - Red with red bucket seats
The number you quoted before 397417 - 3 That's definitely a 67 330, but is that a 3 or a 2?
On the heads, any chance the numbers are 400370 D?
#7
Just an Olds Guy
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Posts: 24,525
As far as the WX and 4FC, I'll take a stab at this, someone who is an expert on 66/67 will correct me if I'm wrong. They should be grouped in specific areas to indicate 'columns' of information from Fisher.
W - Tinted Windshield
X - Power windows
4 - I believe this just refers to 'column 4' of the data tag. Is this group immediately below the WX? Would help to see a pic of the cowl tag.
F - Remote Outside Mirror
C - Chrome window sill moldings
Does this sound like your car?
Heads - any chance you can post a pic that shows what you're asking? I just can't seem to find anything like that in any of the Olds sources. By any chance is it cast something like this where you're looking?
![](http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/members/AardvarkPublisher/9990322410657/image2.jpg)
Here's some info to look at re: Heads. Do any of these number match anything on your heads?
![](http://wildaboutcarsonline.com/members/AardvarkPublisher/9990371596524/image2.jpg)
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Wow Allan thanx for the info & yes everything u mentionad is my car. PWR windows,remote mirrors etc. White top yes & tinted windshield. Im sure the glass has been changed but it is tinted.. I will look at the heads in the area your pic shows, the number i had found on the head was on the back part facing the the firewall drivers side. I didnt even know that there would be other numbers as your pics show. Well this is good it gives me a great reason to pop the hood on old Rosie & look for head numbers while drinking coffee...All of your help is greatly appreciated..I will also try to get some closer pics of these area's...I looked again & cleaned better. My numbers/letters may be a W instead of a V, the number now looks like 483070 & the end letter I think is a C that i thought was a G. very rusty & not stamped real deep, im also looking through a mirror. I appologize for the run around..Also at the number 1 & 8 cylinder there is a raised # 4.......Thanx for everyones time.
Last edited by 67cutlass67GS; May 22nd, 2012 at 08:06 AM.
#9
Just an Olds Guy
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Posts: 24,525
The raised 4 on the location you mention is consistent with the 67 397497 heads in the chart above... see if you can find that casting on them somewhere. Chances are (and you may not like to hear this) the head casting number is not readily visible, so I'll just quote this from the Oldsmobile tech section of Wild About Cars *Carl Sarpolis submission*
Glad to hear you are having fun with your car! We had a 67 Sedan and it was a great car to learn on. Your vert sounds absolutely amazing. Can hardly wait till you post some pics
All small blocks have a large number in the same location, 1, 2, 3, etc. Olds heads also have a six digit casting number cast in one of two locations. Early heads had this number cast near the rocker arm assemblies which would require you to remove the valve cover to see it. Heads produced after 1969, including A, B, C and D heads, have the casting number on either side of the center bolt just below where the valve cover sits.
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