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July 29th, 2009, 10:48 AM
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Only stupid Question, is the one you don't ask.
Recent convert to Oldsmobile(s).[previously a Chevy Guy-mainly A-Bodies]
I just bought a 1964 2-door Cutlass 330 w/2-speed automatic. It is what I would call a "Post" car. While searching for information and photographs of 2-doors, I've run across the terms "Sport Coupe", "Club Coupe" and "Holiday Coupe". Can someone explain the differences in the coupes? -Thanks!
I just bought a 1964 2-door Cutlass 330 w/2-speed automatic. It is what I would call a "Post" car. While searching for information and photographs of 2-doors, I've run across the terms "Sport Coupe", "Club Coupe" and "Holiday Coupe". Can someone explain the differences in the coupes? -Thanks!
July 29th, 2009, 11:02 AM
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Bear in mind that the answer in part can vary by year, but you asked about '64, so here are '64 specific answers. Speaking only of 2-doors here, too.
We are talking about different models.
The F-85 series is comprised of F-85 (more basic) models and Cutlass (more deluxe) models.
The F-85 models are Club Coupes, there is a V6 Club Coupe model and a V8 Club Coupe model (post cars).
The Cutlass has the Sports Coupe model (post car) and Holiday Coupe model (pillar-less hardtop). And there is the Cutlass Convertible model.
We are talking about different models.
The F-85 series is comprised of F-85 (more basic) models and Cutlass (more deluxe) models.
The F-85 models are Club Coupes, there is a V6 Club Coupe model and a V8 Club Coupe model (post cars).
The Cutlass has the Sports Coupe model (post car) and Holiday Coupe model (pillar-less hardtop). And there is the Cutlass Convertible model.
July 29th, 2009, 11:12 AM
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Recent convert to Oldsmobile(s).[previously a Chevy Guy-mainly A-Bodies]
I just bought a 1964 2-door Cutlass 330 w/2-speed automatic. It is what I would call a "Post" car. While searching for information and photographs of 2-doors, I've run across the terms "Sport Coupe", "Club Coupe" and "Holiday Coupe". Can someone explain the differences in the coupes? -Thanks!
I just bought a 1964 2-door Cutlass 330 w/2-speed automatic. It is what I would call a "Post" car. While searching for information and photographs of 2-doors, I've run across the terms "Sport Coupe", "Club Coupe" and "Holiday Coupe". Can someone explain the differences in the coupes? -Thanks!
2 doors, center post: Sports Coupe (F-85 Club Coupe)
4 doors, no center post: Holiday Sedan
4 doors, center post: Town Sedan
If this is incorrect, I welcome anyone with a better answer to respond.
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July 29th, 2009, 06:43 PM
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"The Cutlass has the Sports Coupe model (post car)", so I guess thats what I have. Thanks for the info. My car has bucket seats with no console?(it's column shift) Is that normal? The interior was probably really nice when it was new, a combination of cloth & vinyl(it needs work now,after 45 yrs!)
Thanks Again - Dan
Thanks Again - Dan
July 29th, 2009, 06:54 PM
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We all know what was the first year for the F-85 and Cutlass, right? The F-85 came out in 1961, the first Cutlass was in 1962, and it was not its own series but instead was an option package of the F-85.
Now for the question.
What was that option package? In other words, what made one '62 F-85 just an F-85 but another '62 F-85 into a Cutlass?
July 30th, 2009, 03:33 AM
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Ah, this brings us to one of my most favorite Oldsmobile trivia questions.
We all know what was the first year for the F-85 and Cutlass, right? The F-85 came out in 1961, the first Cutlass was in 1962, and it was not its own series but instead was an option package of the F-85. Now for the question.
What was that option package? In other words, what made one '62 F-85 just an F-85 but another '62 F-85 into a Cutlass?
We all know what was the first year for the F-85 and Cutlass, right? The F-85 came out in 1961, the first Cutlass was in 1962, and it was not its own series but instead was an option package of the F-85. Now for the question.
What was that option package? In other words, what made one '62 F-85 just an F-85 but another '62 F-85 into a Cutlass?
July 30th, 2009, 04:32 AM
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July 30th, 2009, 04:41 AM
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By the way, about 15 years later, I tried to track that car down as I thought it would be fun to reacquire it, fix it up if it needed anything, and drive it. My father gave the car to his mother (imagine, a then 69 year-old-widow driving around in a car like that) in 1968. That much I knew. It didn't take me long to find out that, a couple of years later, my cousin was driving it and was rear-ended by a dump truck while waiting to make a left turn. He survived just fine, but the car was totaled. Oh well, it would have been fun to resurrect it, but it was not to be.
July 30th, 2009, 04:52 AM
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July 30th, 2009, 05:11 AM
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I don't think this is hijacking this thread. His very first question asks about the differences in the various Cutlass models. My trivia question is about differences in the Cutlass models. I think it's very relevant. Plus, it'll be over in about 5 seconds, too!
July 30th, 2009, 06:47 AM
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"arm rests on the inside of the rear seating compartment."
that's gonna mess with me finding a back-seat frame for my car isn't it?
I don't care if you Hi-Jack the thread, if I learn something!(what's the answer?)
that's gonna mess with me finding a back-seat frame for my car isn't it?I don't care if you Hi-Jack the thread, if I learn something!(what's the answer?)
July 30th, 2009, 08:24 AM
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What I thought you were fishing for was that the '62 Cutlass was the first "W" car, RPO code W1.
July 30th, 2009, 08:31 AM
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Not sure if it would or not. was just taking a stab at it. Some models were so plain vanilla - stripped down they did not even have arm rests or carpet, stuff like that.
July 30th, 2009, 08:55 AM
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It certainly was true for later years I'm sure. I was just talking about the first Cutlasses.
Another minor piece of early Cutlass trivia: the Cutlass was not introduced by Oldsmobile until the middle of the '62 model year.
August 10th, 2009, 11:37 AM
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I did not know all that Cutlass, F-85 information. I recently towed one out of a farmers field recently and it all makes sense.
It is a 1962 Oldsmobile F-85 Cutlass convertible, with bucket seats and rear seat arm rests. The firewall placard says it was produced the 4th week of November in 1962 in South Port, CA.
Information is correct.....
It is a 1962 Oldsmobile F-85 Cutlass convertible, with bucket seats and rear seat arm rests. The firewall placard says it was produced the 4th week of November in 1962 in South Port, CA.
Information is correct.....
August 10th, 2009, 01:13 PM
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I thought this is what I said. If an F-85 had bucket seats, it was a Cutlass. If I ordered a Cutlass, I got bucket seats. If I wanted bucket seats, I had to have a Cutlass. I'm not quite sure how I've got it backwards.
It certainly was true for later years I'm sure. I was just talking about the first Cutlasses.
Another minor piece of early Cutlass trivia: the Cutlass was not introduced by Oldsmobile until the middle of the '62 model year.
It certainly was true for later years I'm sure. I was just talking about the first Cutlasses.
Another minor piece of early Cutlass trivia: the Cutlass was not introduced by Oldsmobile until the middle of the '62 model year.
Funny, I just had this discussion at the OCC show on Sunday. A guy who had a 64 F-85 Deluxe hardtop asked me what you got if you stepped up to the Cutlass package like I had. I knew most of what you got, but for some reason I thought there were trim differences outside. He told me his had all the same as mine. This was after he told me that Oldsmobile never made a Cutlass Sport Coupe (even though he was looking at one). He said they only made Cutlass convertibles and Hardtops so who knows.. :-)
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Funny, I just had this discussion at the OCC show on Sunday. A guy who had a 64 F-85 Deluxe hardtop asked me what you got if you stepped up to the Cutlass package like I had. I knew most of what you got, but for some reason I thought there were trim differences outside. He told me his had all the same as mine.
August 10th, 2009, 01:23 PM
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I'm sure the business about Cutlass meaning bucket seats was strictly true only early on. By 1964, it had probably come to mean just a more generally better-appointed car. More chrome, still bucket seats, probably, who knows what else. Certainly the convertible version was available only as a Cutlass that year.
August 10th, 2009, 05:18 PM
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I'm sure the business about Cutlass meaning bucket seats was strictly true only early on. By 1964, it had probably come to mean just a more generally better-appointed car. More chrome, still bucket seats, probably, who knows what else. Certainly the convertible version was available only as a Cutlass that year.
Personally, I think the best way to tell a Cutlass is that it says "Cutlass" on it!
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