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Old January 30th, 2013, 08:10 PM
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My new 70 Cutlass Supreme

After a 2 month wait, the 70' model Cutlass Supreme I bought in Washington state was actually loaded on a transport today. Im excited. Should be here in Sulphur Springs, Tx this Sunday or Monday. Supposed to be a 46k org miles. 350 4bbl car with bucket seats. Hope its as clean in person as in pics. Wish me luck.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 12:11 AM
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Very Nice cutlass
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Old January 31st, 2013, 05:51 AM
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Welcome to C.O. Looks like a nice rig! When you get the bugger can you take a pic of the cowl tag. Color appears to be Astro Blue.

Also, I spotted a couple of minor correctness issues but other than that very nice! But also I am very partial to what you have!

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Nice Cutlass Supreme, the engine looks like it has been painted 455 blue But like Pat said just a few minor details. It is a beauty by looking at the pics
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Nice car. Congrats.


I don't remember you asking if there was anything wrong with it, but I'm glad you have the help if you want to know.

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Nice Cutlass Supreme, the engine looks like it has been painted 455 blue But like Pat said just a few minor details. It is a beauty by looking at the pics
Is it possible that he has a mid 70's 350 in it ? My 72 has a 76 motor in it , and they came in blue .
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Originally Posted by oldsguybry
Is it possible that he has a mid 70's 350 in it ? My 72 has a 76 motor in it , and they came in blue .
I don't think so. By the mid-'70's the paint was more of a corporate blue like in this car.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-...ht_1060wt_1165

OP - when you get the car post the letter from the front of the head and the number from the front of the block behind the water pump and we can determine what's in there. Who knows, maybe its a 455 but they kept the 350 air cleaner?
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Nice car - congratualtions! Look around for a build sheet!
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Nice car - congrats.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 11:48 AM
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Very cool car! Congrats!

Post more pictures when it arrives.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 02:21 PM
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Appreciate it guys. I would like for yall to help me with what I actually have. Should be here Monday or Tuesday. Help me see if its a 455 or not.
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nice car!!!!, post the VIN and cowl tag. But really it doesn't matter what we think as long as you like it!!!!!
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:10 PM
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Here is the vin # 342570G148693. Can you guys tell me the incorrectness that you already see? I gather the 455 blue on the 350 is one. Others? I will get cowl tag info when it gets here.
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Welcome to the site Eric! Very nice looking car.

3 - Oldsmobile
42 - Cutlass Supreme
57 - Holiday coupe
0 - 1970 model year
G - Built at Framingham, MA
148693 - Build sequence at Framingham. (not related to number on cowl tag)

When you get the car, also check the block to see if it has this number 396021F. If it does that's a 455. You know where to look for that number right?
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:21 PM
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Ah rats, you beat me to it.........
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:23 PM
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Thanks Allan R. I have been a chevy/pontiac guy so the engine ID is new to me on the Oldsmobiles.
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Old January 31st, 2013, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ERIC27
I have been a chevy/pontiac guy so the engine ID is new to me on the Oldsmobiles.
When you get the car, you can check to find out if the block is original to the car by comparing the engine stamping pad's last 6 number to the car's VIN. They should be the same. On Olds engines, the stamping pad is located here:


As you can see in the pic this is from a 1971 car (#7 on the heads) but that's the same place it will be on your car. It should read as follows: 30G148693


Another thing to look for if it's just the valve covers that have been painted? The Olds 350 casting for will be 395558 2. The heads -403859- should also have a number 6 cast on them (above the #1 and 8 cylinders)
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Thank you greatly. I will research it heavily when it gets here. Where would buildsheet possibly be? I do know its coming with the protecto plate, owners manual, and the customer info brochure. Was the astro blue correct in 1970?
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Astro blue (code 25) is a correct color for 1970 Cutlass models. You won't know if it was born in that color without seeing the cowl tag.

Protecto Plate is a nice to have document. Would be great if it also had it's original window sticker. Here's a sample of the build/owner/pp from 1970




Since the car was built in Framingham it could very well have a build sheet hiding inside. Usual places: behind kick panels, under parcel shelf, stuffed into bottom of seat springs, on top of gas tank, Under carpeting. If this truly is a low mile car that hasn't been apart you should at least find the broadcast cards that were part of the build. Just so you know - there's no guarantee you'll find a build sheet in the car.
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That is a nice looking one for sure! Enjoy.
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Nice car - congrats!
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Cowl tag should read something like this
Body by Fisher
ST 70 34257 G xxxxx BDY
TR973 25 A PNT
xx B85

XX= fill in the blanks
Like others have mentioned build sheet or window sticker will tell the details.

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Also we can decode the protect-o-plate as well for you as well.
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That would be great! Thank you.
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Only thing the PP will really give you information about will be the dealer zone/code and how many miles were on the car when delivered to the original owner. It will also have the cars VIN on it.
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Yeah too bad they don't have the info that the '68 and prior has
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Old February 5th, 2013, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ERIC27
Here is the vin # 342570G148693. Can you guys tell me the incorrectness that you already see? I gather the 455 blue on the 350 is one. Others? I will get cowl tag info when it gets here.
Correct, if engine is a true 350 gold in color, missing driver side radiator to top plate seal, tune up sticker on top plate MIA, air cleaner bottom half missing A/C delco decal unless it's stuck out of view. Extra picky here but plug wire & dist. cap black in color also battery cables color and ends style incorrect. (these are replacement parts or wear items which is allowed OCA judging)

Interior: steering column should be blue like the painted surfaces on the dash, Radio-aftermarket.

Exterior: Wheels 68-70 SSII should be argent grey.

Again, still a very nice car and with very few things wrong for 43 years old, I would be proud to own it myself!

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maybe a more fun way to find out if a 455... USE right foot
all joking aside NICE ride... enjoy
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My protecto plate reads as follows:
01-832 1 15 07-31-70
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Appreciate all the help and comments guys. Keep em' coming.
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01 = Dealer's Zone
832 = Dealer's Code
1 = ?
15 = ?
07/31/70 = delivery date
342570GXXXXXX = VIN
00019 = How many miles were on it when delivered
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Cowl tag reads:

1 BODY BY FISHER 7
ST 70 34257 G 90606 BDY
TR 973 20C PNT
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70 = 1970
34257 = Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme 2 Dr Hardtop Coupe
G = Framingham, MA Assembly Plant
90606 = Fisher Body Unit #
973 = Blue themed interior with strato bucket seats
20 = Azure Blue lower body color
C = Blue Vinyl Top
05D = 4th week (D) of May 1970 build date
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01-832 Yankee Pontiac-Buick Inc on the corner of Main & Marshall St North Adams, MA

Found at a Pontiac site could be the original dealership
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Azure blue with a blue vinyl top. Guess this means new paint and top at some time Now to get the motor origination. I found a 409 147 below both sides valve covers. Ring a bell?
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Sounds like a later '71 - '72 350 what is the number about 1" tall under the #1 cylinder? And also the number on the engine above the waterpump housing.
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There is a 1" 7 by the #1 plug and the number at water pump is 395558.
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Yep it's a 350 with #7 heads

Wonder what the VIN derivitive code is here

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