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Old Jul 19, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Hello Everyone - 72 Cutlass

Just joined the forum. Been reviewing a bunch of the posts, very impressed with the help here (and of course the knowledge).

Just bought a 1972 Cutlass Supreme coupe hardtop with 350 rocket rodchester 2bl.

The good...
- VERY good body, frame, floor pan
- Good strong engine
- Good trunk
- Good exterior panels
- headliner very good condition...

The bad
- Its green
- Interior seats, carpet, dashpad, steering wheel, are basically shot
- plastic pieces faded, pillars black/green faded
- passenger side manifold leak
- new exhaust needed
- broken driver side air intake rod broke
- driver side door pull strap missing chrome trim piece
- 4 wheel drum drakes
- no air conditioning
- wiper bottle cracked/washer motor not working
- bumpers - both pretty much gone
- exhaust needs work

My plans for now.... not necessarily prioritized (want a nice driver - not perfect showcar)
- basic mechanical tuneup (wires, plugs, cap, points, clean setup carb)
- redo interior
- change front drums to rotors (incl master and porp valve)
- exterior paint (dark black/charcoal)
- install a radio (has am - no rear speakers)
- exterior paint

In Ontario, Canada - will say this car has seen its last winter.

Any ideas, comments, welcome.
Old Jul 19, 2013 | 07:38 PM
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Welcome
Lots of good info and knowledgeable folks here
Post pictures..
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 05:53 AM
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Welcome, x2 on the pictures. Colors of interior/ exterior can be changed. Sounds like you have a very solid car to start with and it should not be very hard to meet your goals.
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 07:18 AM
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Welcome, x3 on the pics. Good year, '72. BTW, green is an awesome color.
Old Jul 20, 2013 | 07:40 AM
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Welcome to the site, enjoy the Cutlass !!!
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 05:37 AM
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re: Pics

Will post some time this week - will get some shots of interior too
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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Welcome to CO! Look forward to seeing pictures of your ride.
Old Jul 22, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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The pics finally...

well tried to update via managed attachments, didnt seem to work...
So pasted directly... and yes that is an alero in the background (hehe) -- My daily driver.
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:00 PM
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Well that did'nt work

How do you get pics up then?
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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While I am waiting...

- Obtained a new windshield washer pump (on top of motor )
Parts guys said the washer needs to be calibrated - do not just bolt on or it will just break. Dunno what he is talking about.

Haven't pulled off the washer unit yet to see - anyone have specific directions on mounting the washer pump to the washer motor?

Thanks
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:21 PM
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attempt2

tried advance attach - upload failed
security token last time....
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Attempt 3

used paint to shrink...
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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Attempt4

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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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Next Pictures...

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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:07 PM
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More Pics...

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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Spare tire- original bias ply

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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:12 PM
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Welcome aboard! That car doesn't look so bad. The color is Pinehurst Green. It seems a lot of the cars that came to Canada didn't have AC.

The good news about your interior: You can buy a new interior from Legendary; they have one of the best reps in the business. Your dash can be removed (it takes a couple hours and it's also easier to remove it with the harness attached) and dyed black. I've used a Dupli color vinyl and fabric dye on some faded parts of my trim (72 Cutlass S) and that stuff makes it look like new. It lasts too.

You have a really nice start on your project. I don't blame you for wanting to change the color.
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pappyl
While I am waiting...

- Obtained a new windshield washer pump (on top of motor )
Parts guys said the washer needs to be calibrated - do not just bolt on or it will just break. Dunno what he is talking about.

Haven't pulled off the washer unit yet to see - anyone have specific directions on mounting the washer pump to the washer motor?

Thanks
Wo.. I didn't know they needed calibrated, that's a new one on me.

Welcome to CO and good job getting the pics up.

I like the wheel color, really pops with the green. I like it.
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:28 PM
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Allan

Well I owned a 69 buick skylark 4 door with exactly the same colours....
Long story - don't have that anymore... Almost the same motor though, 2 bbl rodchester on a 350 chevy smallblock. She'd get up and go.


I've owned a few other oldsmobiles (besides my latest Alero)
- 76 Olds Delta 88
The delta road like a dream - put a coffee on the dash filled to the brim and you wouldnt spill it. Pass everything but a gas station.
- 86 Olds Cutlass Supreme
I drove the cutlass for 15 years until the frame rotted to a point where I couldnt repair it (and, well the car was just pretty much work out - loved that car).

Onto this cutlass,
I heard of the dupli-colour and something else as well - Suma or Sema - maybe in another post on here....

I contacted NOS and got some prices on interior stuff already... dunno yet what I am going to do.

Was thinking maybe a tan interior (think it is called saddle or gold?) as well.
Changing the exterior to a deep darker-shade maroon, put some stripes around the hood cowels in gold and wheels gold to match the engine. Think that will look sharp.

Want to get this baby setup and running, on the road, find the problems with it and iron them out. Dont want to do a frame off just yet - its in too good a condition - want to drive it!
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Oh yes, yet another question for you smart folks on here

Where are the numbers on this beast? When one says numbers matching (I assume with the VIN) I'd like to check my car.
Old Jul 26, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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Check out this thread, and look at the picture in post # 8. Then, get back to us.

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ble-resto.html

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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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numbers

From what I've read so far for numbers

VIN - dash
Block casting number - driver side/front on block below tappet covers
Carb serial number
Distributor number
Cowl plate?
Firewall Tag??
Door tag??
Transmission VIN

Build sheet possibly on top of gas tank
Build sheet interior (possibly under rug or under back seat)
Old Jul 28, 2013 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pappyl
From what I've read so far for numbers

VIN - dash YES, same place as new cars
Block casting number - driver side/front on block below tappet covers NO, that's the head casting. Block casting is at the front of the block on the ledge behind the water pump.
Carb serial number - On the carb itself if it's a QJet. Won't actually be the serial number, it will be the model number (eg: 1972 350 4bbl 7042250, 72 455 4bbl 7042251
Distributor number - model is stamped onto the distributor housing.
Cowl plate? Right side - Top of cowl on the horizontal surface between the cowl lacing and windshield trim
Firewall Tag?? - same as Cowl - just another term.
Door tag?? - Drivers door. There should be a blue sticker (not tag) that shows the VIN and production mo/year. If it's a post 71 model it will aslo have GVWR and Front/Rear GAWR's
Transmission VIN - Lower right side of transmission.

Build sheet possibly on top of gas tank - could be in any number of places unless it's a Lansing car. You will not find a Build Sheet in a Lansing car.
Build sheet interior (possibly under rug or under back seat) Don't know what you're trying to describe. Maybe Broadcast card?? Can be anywhere - under carpet, behind door panel, stuffed under seat springs....
Note responses in bold within your post

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Old Jul 28, 2013 | 07:46 PM
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Old Jul 29, 2013 | 06:54 AM
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Just to clarify, the block CASTING number isn't what makes it "numbers matching". The block VIN derivative is what "matches" the car's VIN. Same with the trans VIN derivative. All the other casting and part numbers were used on many cars in a given model year, so while they may be correct for your particular car, the numbers themselves are not proof that the part are original to that car.
Old Jul 29, 2013 | 08:35 AM
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Old Aug 6, 2013 | 07:23 PM
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And thanks for the info guys. Haven't had time to go through the olds as yet to pull the numbers. Will do shortly - and thanks for the detailed info Alan - will help when I go through it. Yep meant broadcast card for the interior one.

Been busy. Had rusty fuel line issues on my daily driver - lol. Always something!
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:14 PM
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Ok - On my way changing my interior from green to black.

Seats - went with aftermarket covers.
Doors - new panels
Headliner - new headliner - not yet done
carpet - new carpet - old one is completely gone.
seatbelts - changing to a 3 pt one for driver/passenger.

Painting the rear panels/arm rest.

Will post pics as soon as possible.
Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:41 PM
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New seats and painting in progress for the rear vinyl pieces
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:48 PM
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More pieces left to paint - will attempt the visors...

My process...
- Use TSP to clean up with fine steel wool
- Paint the pieces will vinyl prep paint and heat up with hair dryer
- Wait a day and paint with black vinyl paint
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:53 PM
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Also need to paint front pillars - for some reason the paint on the drivers side just flaked off - bad paint I guess, the passenger side was fine.

Note the small plastic pieces are from the rear package tray clips. They were very brittle and I had to fix one with some bondo. Probably better to buy new, but I'll paint these for now.
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 07:58 PM
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Well the seats were pretty much gone, but the vinyl pieces from the headrests and the centre console were pretty good shape if anyone is interested - maybe trade for another part?
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Old Aug 5, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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Headliner is next, I expect this will be fun.

I will attempt dash last (have new dashpad, will need to paint large remainder part of steering column and lower dash.

Have not pulled the vent kick-panels in the Front. Does anyone know if there is a special way needed to disconnect the vent pull rods?

Btw, I'll take pictures. Note the floor all done and painted, but I do expect I'll need to paint the roof prior to putting up the new headliner. The insulation looks good though.
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 07:12 AM
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Looks good. Keep up the good work!
Old Aug 7, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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Here's a shot of the interior, pulled the headliner but was too dark to take a pic.

I have the floor painted with por-15.
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