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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 01:21 PM
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68 442 stripes...NOT THE VERTICAL ONES!!!

Does anybody have a 68 442 assembly manual (original not reprint) that includes the drawings for the 2 styles of horizontal stripes that are located just below the top of fender/door trim? I have seen two different stripe styles...one is a thicker (5/8 or 3/4) that starts at front of fender and ends near the point of the rear side window...the other is a thinner (1/4 or 3/8) stripe that starts at front of fender then wraps around the point of the rear side window and continues along the top of window trim line back forward to terminate near the front of the roof.

I AM NOT LOOKING FOR THE MORE COMMON VERTICAL FENDER STRIPE!!! There are plenty of threads about those more popular 68 442 stripes.

If anyone has the factory diagrams for those horizontal stripe patterns, please post pictures of those assembly diagram pages on this thread.

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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 02:51 PM
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I might, I will have to check the vault and see whats in the book.
Old Jun 23, 2018 | 06:34 PM
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W-36 stripes (the ones you don't want) were the only stripes that you could get in 1968. By your description however, it sounds like you might be talking about the paint scheme for a '68 H/O ...?
Old Jun 23, 2018 | 08:44 PM
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Nope! Wrong!

Guess I wI'll have to post pictures.
Old Jun 23, 2018 | 08:48 PM
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W-36 stripes (the ones you don't want) were the only stripes that you could get in 1968
This is incorrect. The standard stripe was a horizontal one as described by conk442.
Old Jun 23, 2018 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by conk442
Guess I wI'll have to post pictures.
That would be helpful.


EDIT: Wait, you mean those pinstripes that ride beside the peak molding from the C-pillar forward along the door to the front fender?

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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 08:52 PM
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This is my buddy's '68. Note the white stripe just under the fender ridge trim. If you do not have a vinyl top, it continues back to the front of the car over the top of the side windows, and ends at the roof just before the windsheild trim.
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Old Jun 23, 2018 | 08:59 PM
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I believe that was called the "G.T. Stripe" and its option code was Y74. As I recall, it was standard on the 4-4-2 model unless it was ordered with the W36 stripe, in which case the G.T. Stripe was deleted. The G.T. Stripe could also be deleted if the customer didn't want it. The G.T. Stripe paralleled the fender and door peak moldings just below those moldings. On the hardtop, I believe it followed the molding back and then curved up and followed the molding line along the top on each side as well. On convertibles, it just followed the peak molding back to the end of the quarter panel where the molding ends.

I hardly ever see that particular stripe. I wonder if it got deleted in repainting or if it wasn't a standard issue option for the 4-4-2.

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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rcorrigan5
I believe that was called the "G.T. Stripe" and its option code was Y74. As I recall, it was standard on the 4-4-2 model unless it was ordered with the W36 stripe, in which case the G.T. Stripe was deleted. The G.T. Stripe could also be deleted if the customer didn't want it. The G.T. Stripe paralleled the fender and door peak moldings just below those moldings. On the hardtop, I believe it followed the molding back and then curved up and followed the molding line along the top on each side as well. On convertibles, it just followed the peak molding back to the end of the quarter panel where the molding ends.

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I hardly ever see that particular stripe. I wonder if it got deleted in repainting or if it wasn't a standard issue option for the 4-4-2.

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It typically gets sanded off for the repaint and no one puts them back on. Of course, since EVERY 68 has incorrect W-36 stripes today, no wonder you never see them...
Old Jun 24, 2018 | 08:09 AM
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Hard top stripe
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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 11:21 AM
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Wow nice 68s and interesting to see the different stripes on the vinyl and hardtop models thanks for posting pics!
Old Jun 24, 2018 | 11:29 AM
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Yeah...like Joe said, that was standard equipment that you rarely see now. The dimensions are in the assembly manual. It's like the double pinstripe on the dash...standard...but you rarely see them now on a car.
Old Jun 24, 2018 | 12:20 PM
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more examples

Wrap around stripe on 68 Ram Rod
Thicker stripe on a 68 Ram Rod. The one I lost to fire had a white stripe like this except there was no vinyl top so stripe exteded a few inches further to end near point of rear side window. Both of these stripe styles I have seen on both Ram Rods and 442s. People from the Mid Ohio club who knew the owners of my current 68 442 have told me that before it was painted black the original dark green (Jade Gold) paint had a red stripe similar to the green Ram Rod shown but no vinyl top.
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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 12:26 PM
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Soooo...back to the original question.

Does anybody have the assembly manual pages showing the dimensions of these stripes??? If so please post pictures. I plan on repainting my currently black 68 442 back to original Jade Gold and adding the original red stripe. So I need the proper dimensions.
As always Thank you very much for your input!
Old Jun 24, 2018 | 12:28 PM
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Sorry

Didn't intend that to sound as dismissive as it came out.
Old Jun 24, 2018 | 01:17 PM
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I hope someone has a page from the '68 A-body assembly manual/PIM that shows the Y74 G.T. Stripe. It's not in mine. I'm thinking it should show up either in manual section 11, or possibly manual section 1-4 (that's where the '69 PIM shows the stripes options).

I believe the standard issue '68 assembly manual/PIM doesn't have a page for the Y74 stripe. Mine didn't even have the W36 stripe page until someone posted it on this site. In fact, there were a lot useful pages omitted in the reproduction of the '68 assembly manual, as well as some of the reproduction issues being barely readable.

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Old Jun 24, 2018 | 01:23 PM
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More info

Didn't someone say those pages are missing in the cheap reproductions most places sell and can only be found in an original assembly manual?
Anyway here is a convertible listed on Oldsmobile Central that has the thin stripe from front to rear. Some nice close-up pics also.
https://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/for-sale/1968/442-Milwaukee.php​​​​​​​
Old Jun 24, 2018 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by conk442
Didn't intend that to sound as dismissive as it came out.
It came out fine. Sorry to have helped your thread go down a rabbit hole and best of luck in your search.
Old Jun 24, 2018 | 07:28 PM
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I'll see if I can find them. I definitely had the blueprints from an assembly manual.
Old Jun 25, 2018 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mrolds69
Yeah...like Joe said, that was standard equipment that you rarely see now. The dimensions are in the assembly manual. It's like the double pinstripe on the dash...standard...but you rarely see them now on a car.

They aren't in the 68 Assembly Manual that's generally available on line.



If you have it in the 69 Manual and you could post it that would be great. There are three versions because the convertible stripe follows the peak molding all the way to the end of the rear 1/4 panel.
Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:37 AM
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Oddly enough, I do have the page for the dash pin stripes on the '68 (see attached). It doesn't give anything on dimensions...it just shows where it goes!
I've never seen anything, though, for the Y74 G.T. Stripe.

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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by rcorrigan5
Oddly enough, I do have the page for the dash pin stripes on the '68 (see attached). It doesn't give anything on dimensions...it just shows where it goes!

Well, it's a decal on carrier paper, so there's no need to provide dimensions. The up/down location is specified in View A-A. The left-right location is determined by the steering column opening in the lower dash panel.
Old Jun 25, 2018 | 09:34 AM
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I looked for a lot of this same information when I had my 68 442. Here are some pictures and information I collected.
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/for...-gt-stripe.php
Old Jun 25, 2018 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Joffroi
I looked for a lot of this same information when I had my 68 442. Here are some pictures and information I collected.
http://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/for...-gt-stripe.php

FYI, the green one with the vinyl top has correct factory stripes. The aqua car does not have a factory pinstripe. The "kink" in the strip at the front of the front fender tells you this is not a factory application. It's also too far below the chrome strip.


Old Jun 25, 2018 | 09:53 AM
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Here are a couple from an original paint Saffron 68 Cutlass convertible I parted out in 2003. I know the pics aren't great. If I knew now what I didn't know then I would have documented a lot more on this car. It hadn't been registered since 1978. The second pic is of the back of the driver's fender.
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Old Jun 25, 2018 | 04:47 PM
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The GT stripe was standard on 442's and optional on Cutlass.
Old Jul 17, 2018 | 09:02 PM
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Y74 GT stripes

Still need these pages if anyone has them and can scan them to post. The poor quality scanned reprint assembly manuals available at most places DO NOT INCLUDE THESE PAGES! I inquired at AutoLit website which has the best quality stuff I have seen but have not received a reply as to whether these pages are included in their higher quality product. Please keep searching for these stripe layout pages. Thanx everybody.
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